On 6/24/08, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This may be the basis for an out-of-court settlement between the
> AFO and the plaintiffs (I'd suggest members of the AFO other than
> comex might like to take the lead), which this judge would respect,
> with the caveat that, since *some* members of the AFO have shown
> bad faith in following through with past settlements, there have
> to be some strong assurances for this judge (e.g. if the settlement
> is material, funds in escrow) on the AFO's ability and willingness
> to live up to its obligations.

Goethe, I seem to have pissed you off.  However, I am not ehird (who
recently suggested proposing a rule that would award a win to the
author of a message that broke the most number of rules with the
shortest amount of text), and you greatly exaggerate my failure to
abide by or lack of respect for the rules (that I am not timely about
posting apologies is your main problem, no?  well, I will be more
timely next time).  Indeed, the terms set out in your judgement seemed
reasonable when I read them, except of course for the threat of the
AFO ceasing to be a person.

I for one, preferring not to be criminally punished for a successful
scam, am very likely to accept an equation with similar terms
regarding giving back crops on behalf of the AFO.  I merely objected
to the equation's attempt to coerce the AFO into it, because it (a)
assumes that I will act in bad faith and (b) is illegal.

Indeed, my treatment of the equation as obviously invalid in my
response to Goethe's message posting it was based not on any contempt
for it but my impression, at the time, that it was.

In saying this I am certainly not conceding that the judgement works.
When I get home, I will post a detailed message with respect to why
that equation couldn't possibly be forcibly binding on the AFO in the
way it envisions, and correcting the error that I did make and that
root spotted.  Rather, I am trying to defuse the tension I seem to
have quite unnecessarily created with respect to this equity case.

Are we metagaming, or roleplaying?  Is the stealing of a few crops
from a contract truly such a terrible scam that it is to be severely
punished?  I can name a lot of scams that ought to cause very heated
debate and name-calling, and this is not one of them.  Goethe, for the
sake of Agora, please save your fire for a time more worthy of it.
Submit your previous equation or a harsher one if you want, before
even having received arguments from the parties concerning
equitability, but if you do so, don't complain when it doesn't work.

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