On 5/9/08, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Elliott Hird
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (I will hereby rebut the argument which is against my guilt and,
> > therefore, for my innocence.)
> >
> > These arguments relate to CFJ 1943.
> >
> > The Argument:
> >
> > I should not be found GUILTY because the contract obligated
> > its parties to not be party to it, and therefore the contract
> > obligated its parties to break the rules. Therefore, since I
> > could not have done anything else, I plead EXCUSED.
> >
> > The Rebuttal:
> >
> > The argument is invalid because I could have not made the
> > contract in the first place, thus avoiding breaking the rules.
> > Therefore, I should be found GUILTY.
> >
> > The Rebuttal of the Rebuttal:
> >
> > I should not be found GUILTY because my religion -
> > Agoracontractian - requires me to make that contract, and
> > it is unreasonable to say that I could drop my religion to
> > avoid breaking the rules. Therefore, I plead EXCUSED.
> >
> > The Agoracontractian Religion:
> >
> > This religion has two commandments, given by God at the
> > beginning of time. These commandments MUST be obeyed
> > by its adherents. I am the only member of this religion.
> >
> > 1. A member of the Agoracontractian religion must make
> >   the Ducks & Platypuses Agoran contract.
> > 2. These commandments are an Agoran public contract.
>
> I think you're trying to say that this is a Public Contract to which
> you are a party, but it is not, since if you were the only party it
> would dissolve immediately (it requires at least two parties) and no
> effective announcement of it having more than two parties has been
> made.
>
> Regardless the contract which at issue seems to have a loophole of
> allowing you to propose and not oppose a proposal that would modify
> the contract. Since you have not done so, I believe a verdict of
> EXCUSED is plainly not reasonable.

There is no reason for em to do that because e has every reason to
believe that I will be a law-abiding citizen and not approve it.
Besides, proposing a change could potentially be considered "consent".
 I argue that because arranging to leave the contract would require me
to exacerbate my violation of Rule 1742 by consenting to a proposed
change, given the reasonable assumption that ehird will not consent to
a change that I propose, I could not (at the time Wooble initiated the
case, or at any time after the contract was formed) avoid breaking the
rules in a way at least as serious as alleged, and so should be
EXCUSED.

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