On 11/1/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zefram wrote: > > > Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >> When Agoran Rules allow an action to be conducted "by announcement", > >> the specific announcement is the action in question, giving the > >> appearance that we support ISIDTID. In reality, we are recognizing > >> the actual act of posting a message as the action. > > > > Yes. I'm surprised that anyone ever claimed ISIDTID as a general > > principle. The rules are very clear that certain specific actions are > > performed by means of an announcement that they are being performed, > > and nowhere do they claim that actions can in general be performed in > > that way. > > Rule 478 has only defined "by announcement" since February 2003, when > it was quietly introduced as a side effect of Proposal 4456 (which > introduced Switches for the first time, and defined one for fora).
The legislative custom of defining action mechanisms in terms of public forum announcements long predates that clause, which merely specifies how "by announcement" actions are performed. It does nothing in the absence of rules defining actions that can be performed by announcement, and it has nothing to do with ISIDTID. > Even with that definition in place, it's easy to argue that announcing > "I do X 10,000 times" /is/ effectively making 10,000 announcements, > hence that Rule 478 fully backs it up. Announcing "I do X 10,000 times" is nothing more than an announcement of "I do X 10,000 times", just as writing "I will not throw spitballs * 100" on a chalkboard after class is not equivalent to writing out "I will not throw spitballs" the full hundred times. This is rather a strange discussion in light of the fact that none of us are actually disagreeing with the proto-judgement. -root
