On 8/29/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Similarly, announcing "I pick up a rock" is not an action that results
> > in myself holding a rock.
>
> But in our case, it does.  What results in a vote being cast?
> The announcement?  The noting by Assessor?  The Reporting of the vote?
> Our laws support that it's the announcement (for example, since you
> can retract it any time after the announcement, the vote had to be
> cast immediately upon the announcement).  Moreover, unlike the rock
> example, "cast a vote" is an abstract concept with no inherent
> mechanism (votes can be cast on pieces of paper, by shows of hands,
> etc.)  Therefore there is no difference between the act of casting
> a vote and the act of posting an announcement which causes a vote
> to have been cast.

As you note, it is the rules that give the announcement its legal
status as a cast vote, so it sounds to me like what you're arguing is
"ISIDTID as long as the action is recognized by the rules", which
isn't really ISIDTID at all.  But maybe I'm misunderstanding.

-root

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