On 8/29/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A certain logical fallacy that has plagued agora for a long time > makes this impossible, as long as we accept it.
More of a metaphysical fallacy than a logical one, I think. > If we accept "I say I do, therefore I do", then "game actions" > cannot be true or false. The act of performing (or attempting > to perform) the action *makes* it (or the attempt) so. Are you arguing in favor of accepting ISIDTID? The rules seem quite clear to me that it is the act of announcing an action that makes it so, not performing it. > Picking up a rock, or failing to pick up a rock, is neither a > true nor a false statement about whether you picked up a rock. Picking up a rock is not accomplished by making a statement. Voting in Agora is. Similarly, announcing "I pick up a rock" is not an action that results in myself holding a rock. > This is also why any attempt to define statements like "I vote > 1000 times" as perjury are logically flawed, even if such > attempted actions are made with reckless disregard for whether > they are possible. More of a legislative flaw than a logical one, I think. -root
