[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >5124 AGAINST What's the problem with proper disinterest? Having the penalty apply to disinterested proposals provides a perverse incentive for people to vote on disinterested proposals contrary to their actual opinion of the proposal. That's what disinterest is meant to avoid.
>5130 AGAINST Yay, sanity. I was getting worried about this one, on the voting so far. I keep having thoughts that voting FOR a really destructive proposal, such as (arguably) this or the repeal-all-the-rules proposal a while ago, ought to be punishable as treason. But that would be undemocratic. >5133 FOR (may as well repeal Rule 103, then; what about Rule 402?) Heh. Even without this proposal, we certainly don't need there to always be a speaker. It's just not a critical position any more. So I'd be up for repealing rule 103. But not 402 (and thus the office altogether): I'd like to legislate the speaker as a (non-executive) head of state, with a symbolic role in foreign relations. The overall process resembles the way kings in many countries have lost their actual power and become figureheads with a great historical flavour. Proto soon. >5136 FOR (preserves game custom that actions are possible unless > stated as impossible, and [Peekee notwithstanding] permissible > unless stated as impermissible) I'm surprised by the virulence of the anti-MMI faction. The arguments for the rules to remain unclear remind me of some of the anti-industrialisation protests of the 19th century, or the King James Only movement in Christian theology. >5137 FOR I'm even more surprised that the anti-MMI voters object to greater explication in an already-MMIed rule. >5138 FOR After I submitted this, I recalled (to my embarrassment) that some months ago I described "Support Democracy" as a temporary provision. It's only there to stop ladder scams. But we haven't done much about ladder scams since then, and on reflection "Support Democracy" *is* a more democratic version of the pre-existing veto. Roll on the day when we don't need *any* veto provision. -zefram
