Kerim Aydin wrote:

> Eris wrote:
> > > The Deckmastor keeps records on cards and (at time of CFJ)
> > > pending draws; therefore, pending draws are regulated.
> > Cite the rule that requires this.
>
> R1677 implies a things called pending draws exist and have regulated
> mechanisms for being changed.  But Eris is right, the deckmastor
> doesn't keep records of pending draws.  So to interpret R1677, we
> must fall back on a common definition of "pending draws" and the
> mapping of draws -> cards in common English is compelling.
>

At TOCFJ, R1677/12 did not discuss pending draws; these were mentioned
only in Rs 2069/2 and 2074/0.  As before, I am using the SLR of 21 March
2006.  Pending draws therefore had just as much meaning then as
initiative does now -- as a dangling reference.  (Initiative is
currently noted only in R1664/29, and my effort to get rid of it is
currently Stalled.)  As Goethe holds, all we have left is the normal
meaning of "pending draw."  However, I just checked the rules, and we
apparantly repealed the rule that said that stuff has its normal English
meaning unless the rules say otherwise.


> Eris wrote:
> > > The question is therefore, to what extent were pending draws
> > > regulated at time of CFJ.
> > Huh? A thing is either regulated or unregulated. You said it was
> > regulated. Where does extent enter into the discussion?
>
> I think it's clearer to think of "what aspect" of pending draws are
> regulated rathern than "what extent".  For example, the granting of
> draws could be regulated while the satisfying of draws could be
> unregulated.  I agree with you that this proto-judgement doesn't
> clarify what is meant.

Good point, Eris.  Pending draws were undefined at TOCFJ, and therefore
unregulated.  However, cards were regulated -- the Deckmastor still had
to keep track of who held which cards.  On one hand, draws could be
fulfilled based on game practice; on the other tentacle, it seems to me
that draws could not be fulfilled in a way that modified card holdings.
Based on that reasoning, I am now inclined to rule FALSE.

This is, of course, what draft decisions are all about.
--
Benjamin Schultz, KE3OM
OscarMeyr


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