On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 3:02 PM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>
wrote:...

> ..."you" control people using either positive or negative reinforcement.
> Traditionally, "governments" controlled people using threats of
> punishment, but there is a centuries long trend towards less cruelty and
> higher legal costs. "AI" makes it easy to use reward instead, predicting
> what you want, lowering the cost, and selling it to you.
>

Agents can be thought of as control systems and control systems have
utility functions and you've mentioned 3 distinct agents:

"you"
"governments"
"AI"

I suppose you left off one other:

"we"

It is ok to conflate all of these so long as there are no distinct
identities hence there is only one agent hence there is only one utility
function.

But I would submit that is insane.

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