The objectives of AGI are excellent. Conceptually the AGI model can be regarded as an extension of AI.
However, pragmatically everything that works today from chess to AlphaGo, heuristic search, ANN combined with statistics (e.g. machine learning) *is “narrow” AI not AGI*. To my knowledge, in the last 15 years none of the new "techniques" has shown any AGI breakthrough. If you feel that we are wrong just provide a single example of an AGI algorithm that works and it is not "narrow". Science fiction writers everywhere they pretend to enlighten the crowd . Since 70s they envisioned building autonomous systems, and hollywoodian scenarios where highly intelligent computers took control e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames . Later the deadline for such digital computers was extended to 2000, 2010 and 2020...... Today we know that such apocalyptic expectations are "fake ", PR stunts. Andrew Ng posted recently on twitter "Let's cut out *the AGI nonsense*". Without real progress no one will believe or invest a single dollar in "AGI algorithms". So the future of AGI on digital computers is bleak. *The AGI level will not be reached solely by developing algorithms on digital computers*. Only a few understood ten years ago the real problem. That's why Markram's initiative and all other brain projects are today in disarray, https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-human-brain-project-went-wrong-and-how-to-fix-it/ , see also Modha's DARPA SyNAPSE and many other programs. There is no “digital brain” and singularity is nowhere near. Everything was a PR stunt. Have we learn anything from such failures? No, not enough to make a single step further. And even worst, after over 15 years of PR we cannot see a glimpse of AGI on digital computers. *Why?* *The difference between computing by interaction and algorithmic computations run on digital computers is huge (see neuroelectrodynamics, NED).* "Physical boundaries" are highly important since there is a level of interaction required for any computing system to be "AGI compatible”. The brain computations by interaction (or vibration if you like) provide the best example of the new physics of computing that’s highly “general" not “digital”. Such systems have to be built first if someone really likes to push the field of computation forward and at this point in time probably China has the resources to make this step. The new space of computing by interaction will be way different than the “ *Jurassic* World of algorithms” performed on digital computers. This new field needs investors and I hope this brief introduction will help Colin, Ben and maybe others to secure the required funding. Dorian ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Ta6fce6a7b640886a-M23cc8f41369e6684de61f478 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
