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> From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com>
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> Challenging a la Haramein? No doubt. But that is what the adventure is all
> about. Have we managed to wrap our minds fully round the implications of
> Mandelbrot's contribution? And then, there is so much else of science to
> revisit once the context of an AGI has been adequately " boundaried".

Cheers to Mandelbrot not only for the math and science but for the great 
related art and culture. and music even! Fractal music 😊

> Imagine if "we" could engineer that (to develop an ingenious consciousness-
> based engine), which the vast majority of researchers claim cannot be done?
> Except for lack of specific knowledge and knowhow and an inadequate
> resource base (for now), I see no sound reason why such a feat would not be
> possible.

Big project 😊

IMO successful AGI will use consciousness functionally but won't call it that 
since it causes so much hyperventilation. Researchers want non-conscious AGI so 
it doesn't go rogue LOL. Hmmm wonder about that. Could non-conscious go rogue 
anyway... and is non-conscious even possible.

John



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