But since we are an S Corporation, we pay personal property replacement tax.
I think it's calculated as something like 1.5% of income.

https://tax.illinois.gov/localgovernments/personal-property-replacement-tax.
html

 

Like they say, death and taxes.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
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According to Google, Illinois had personal property tax until it was banned
in the state constitution in the 1970's

 

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Which always baffles me. In IL, we tax everything, but not that. I can't
imagine a worse type of tax to have.




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Ah...."personal property tax". A new vocabulary word for me, and that has
clarified the question greatly. Also called "Tangible Personal Property" tax
or "Business Personal Property" tax. New York State is on a short list of
states that don't have this type of tax so I was not familiar with it. If I
build a tower on leased land in NY it will count as a permanent improvement
to the underlying land, so the property owner sees the tax increase and that
has to be built into the rent negotiation. 



Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New York, Ohio, and Pennsylvania don't
have a TPP or BPP. 
Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota, and South Dakota only
have them on select industries. NJ, for example, only has it on petroleum
refining and on the LEC. Sucks to be Verizon in NJ. 


The rest of the states have more general TPP or BPP. This affects site
acquisition in different states. Thanks for feedback, everyone. 


-Adam 




From: AF on behalf of Tushar Patel 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 7:37 PM 
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Property Tax 


In Texas we get personal property tax on the assets. 
So, cell tower is an asset so in Texas, I should say a few counties we are
in we get tax bill for it. 




Tushar 






On Mar 18, 2025, at 1:39 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: 





I'm seeing two cell phone towers on land owned by a fire department. The
parcel info shows zero tax because obviously the fire department is tax
exempt, and they do not show a separate parcel for the cell towers. 


I know it depends on the local laws, but is it likely the cell phone
companies are getting a free ride on the property tax by placing on tax
exempt property? If that's an avenue for tax avoidance, then I'm all about
it. I'll do it all day long. 
I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with that. Could the tax man
make it some special case where they bill the cell phone company separately?



-Adam 


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