According to Google, Illinois had personal property tax until it was banned in 
the state constitution in the 1970’s

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 11:00:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Property Tax

Which always baffles me. In IL, we tax everything, but not that. I can't 
imagine a worse type of tax to have.




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From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 9:26:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Property Tax



Ah...."personal property tax". A new vocabulary word for me, and that has 
clarified the question greatly. Also called "Tangible Personal Property" tax or 
"Business Personal Property" tax. New York State is on a short list of states 
that don't have this type of tax so I was not familiar with it. If I build a 
tower on leased land in NY it will count as a permanent improvement to the 
underlying land, so the property owner sees the tax increase and that has to be 
built into the rent negotiation.



Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, New York, Ohio, and Pennsylvania don't have a 
TPP or BPP.
Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota, and South Dakota only have 
them on select industries. NJ, for example, only has it on petroleum refining 
and on the LEC. Sucks to be Verizon in NJ.


The rest of the states have more general TPP or BPP. This affects site 
acquisition in different states. Thanks for feedback, everyone.


-Adam




From: AF on behalf of Tushar Patel
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 7:37 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Property Tax


In Texas we get personal property tax on the assets.
So, cell tower is an asset so in Texas, I should say a few counties we are in 
we get tax bill for it.




Tushar






On Mar 18, 2025, at 1:39 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:





I'm seeing two cell phone towers on land owned by a fire department. The parcel 
info shows zero tax because obviously the fire department is tax exempt, and 
they do not show a separate parcel for the cell towers.


I know it depends on the local laws, but is it likely the cell phone companies 
are getting a free ride on the property tax by placing on tax exempt property? 
If that's an avenue for tax avoidance, then I'm all about it. I'll do it all 
day long.
I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with that. Could the tax man make 
it some special case where they bill the cell phone company separately?


-Adam


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