I had a customer choose GRP2670 touchscreen phones.  I feel like the 
touchscreen would get washed out if there's high ambient light like from a 
window, but they liked them because they felt fancy.  Personally I would have 
gone with something like a GRP2616.

But maybe something like a GRP2670 seem like a "real phone".

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 10:52 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones

I just picked up a Shokz headset so that I can reproduce this at will (The 
customer lent me his headset before when I was initially
troubleshooting) It's not on the 'Approved' Grandstream headset list, but 
hopefully I can make some headway with support.  But I doubt that's going to 
solve the problem of it not saying 'Cisco' on the phone.

I wonder If I can get by with just changing his handset, of if he'll want 
everyone in the office to have a Cisco.

On 4/3/2025 10:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Have you run this by Grandstream support?  It's been a while since I opened a 
> case with them, but I seem to remember they actually respond.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 9:55 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
>
> Unfortunately the problem is that he has an 'Expensive' headset, so "IT'S NOT 
> THE HEADSETS PROBLEM"   It's an Shokz 'Openrun Pro2' which can link to 
> multiple devices at the same time.  Like a cellphone, and the Grandstream.  
> When it's connected to his cellphone, and he walks in the office and it 
> connects to the grandstream as the 2nd device, the first
> 30 seconds of any call are garbled, then it clears up, and all subsequent 
> calls are fine.  Doing any sort of workaround, like, calling someone else in 
> the office as soon as you get there, are unacceptable. It's the pile of 
> garbage noname grandstream's bluetooth that's the problem.  I'm half tempted 
> to get one of the $600 Cisco phones and see if it acts the exact same way.
>
> On 4/3/2025 9:35 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Going back to Nate's original post, is the real problem the boss can't get 
>> his Bluetooth headset to work with the Grandstream phone?  That seems like 
>> it should be a solvable problem.
>>
>> I seem to remember Grandstream was pretty good about publishing a list of 
>> headsets that work with their phones.  And if he's the kind of guy who wants 
>> a Cisco phone, he probably has a big name headset like Plantronics or Jabra? 
>>  Or is he a techie with a gaming headset or something from a Kickstarter 
>> project?  Maybe he's one of these people who walks around all day with a 
>> Bluetooth earpiece connected to his car, his cellphone, etc.
>>
>> Surely there's a way to get a Bluetooth headset to work with a Grandstream 
>> phone.  If not, can you buy him a new headset?
>>
>> BTW, because I'm old, I can't get used to the people who walk around in 
>> stores and public places talking loudly to invisible people, and I have to 
>> realize they're talking on their phone.  It used to be those were the crazy 
>> people saying repent, repent, the end is near.  When I was going to night 
>> school, I would always see them around the train station in Chicago.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 8:49 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
>>
>> We use Yealink and Fanvil.
>>
>> The customers use what we support, or they're not customers. Now, we may 
>> expand the scope of what we support, but there needs to be a very good 
>> reason to expand that scope.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 12:41:14 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
>>
>> We've been using grandstream phones for quite a while, cheap and easy to 
>> provision.  One of my new business customers is making a stink because 'he's 
>> never heard of Grandstream, these phones just don't work with my bluetooth 
>> headset, I NEED a Cisco phone because that's a real phone' I'm thinking that 
>> it's mainly about ego, that his friends probably have Cisco phones on their 
>> desks, and he doesn't, so he's making up issues.
>>
>> I haven't used Cisco phones in many years, Linksys SPA504G's were my last 
>> dabble into non-grandstream phones.
>>
>> It looks like a Cisco phone with Bluetooth (A requirement) is about $550 for 
>> an 8851.  How do you provision those?  Is there any sort of cloud 
>> provisioning?  Still done with TFTP?   Put some sort of call manager on 
>> site?  I really like that I can provision the Grandstream phones while they 
>> are behind the customers firewall without having to do any port forwarding 
>> etc.  Cisco always used to like Licensing, is that still the case to use 
>> them with normal SIP, or are they all SIP now.
>>
>> Just wondering if it's worth trying to investigate Cisco phones for this one 
>> customer, or if Cisco phones really want a Cisco Callmanager on the backend.
>>
>>
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