I forget, is Ukraine part of Eurasia, or Oceania?  Looks like all of Europe 
with the exception of the British Isles are Eurasia.  Alaska is still Oceania 
though.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_geography_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four#/media/File:1984's_Geopolitics.png

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 1:16 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ukraine

 

Well, it is labeled "opinion". 

 

It conveniently ignores the situations in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and 
northern Poland, which all had significant portions of their populace that 
thought of themselves as Russian. Allof those areas have completely shifted 
toward NATO in the last ~~ 30 years or so. Perhaps the difference in Ukraine 
was that they had a larger portion, and maybe more concentrated part  who still 
thought of themselves as Russian.

 

Maybe a better analogy would be Alaska, which we purchased from Russia just 
after the Civil War. What if Putin decided he wanted that back too? 

 

Northern Poland does feel some heat from Russia, but not quite as intense (yet).

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/19/2025 10:06 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I like to flip the script.

 

Suppose Arabs in Michigan wanted to split off into a new state with limited 
political autonomy from the USA, and that we could expect that new state to be 
allied with, and supported by, Syria and Palestine.  Also suppose Joe Biden 
signed a deal agreeing to make it happen.  Now we've elected Donald Trump, and 
DJT doesn't follow through with the agreement.   Are Syria and Palestine now 
justified to invade Michigan?  Of course it's impossible, but the point is to 
look at the other perspective.   Sometimes the situation is so alien that I 
can't manage it, but in this case, I still have more sympathy for Ukraine than 
Russia.

 

That was a good article with details we don't usually see, and I do appreciate 
you sharing it.

 

-Adam

 

 

 

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https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJHx1hleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHV7tIFqQCTvxTn-YrPAM2iQQWz0fxGJx1qJvdiFpoxWix5j9Vn_WoUPzlg_aem_dSpSo_pT3JWR-QlwGM_kjw

 





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