Thanks for all the advise.  I think I'm going to kick this down the road a bit. 
 I'm going to re-arrange a few fibers to allow me to get a few more customers 
online.  Once I start seeing what the take rate is going to be, I may just put 
in a building or something.

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Tuesday, January 7, 2025, 4:45:36 PM, you wrote:

> Max range varies by platform, but most will do up to 60km, sometimes your 
> nearest and furthest ONT can't be more than 20km different. 

> On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 4:42 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

>> The original iteration of GPON would let you feed 32 subs at 12.5 miles.  
>> And you still had optical budget, it was a timing limitation.  Not sure what 
>> the limit is these days. 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: Chris Fabien
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:07 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet
>>  
>> Ken, yes this is a key benefit of PON over Coax/DSL based service. However 
>> you do use up some of your optical budget with distance, which may impact 
>> how many subscribers you can serve on that PON. So, you have to decide, is 
>> it worth it to feed this PON from a hut 20 miles away, if it means I can 
>> only fit 8 or 16 customers per PON? Or should I place an OLT closer and be 
>> able to serve 64 per PON. PON ports are expensive, take power to operate, 
>> needing to place larger cable and handholes is expensive, and burning up 
>> hundreds of strand-miles carrying PONs that can only feed 8 customers is 
>> expensive. In our network, we plan to serve about 10 mile radius from a 
>> cabinet/hut.
>>  
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 4:02 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

>>> Can’t you feed a PON over fiber from 10, 20, 30 miles away if you have the 
>>> strands?  I used to assume it was like phone pedestals and crossboxes, 
>>> cable TV nodes, or UVerse cabinets that had to be within a block or two of 
>>> the customer.  But it seems like you could find a location for an active 
>>> electronics hut miles away along your fiber route.
>>>  
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:33 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet
>>>  
>>> We have a few cabinet sites like this, using DDB Cabinets. For fiber slack 
>>> we just place a handhole next to them. What works best is buying a 
>>> pre-loaded fiber panel with a few hundred ft pigtail and then splicing to 
>>> your OSP cable in the handhole.
>>> Lessons learned after having cabinets in the field for close to 10 years:
>>> 1. They overheat very quickly if the A/C fails. Like 20 minutes.
>>> 2. Hard to store enough batteries/UPS for reasonable length of backup to 
>>> roll a generator. The cabinet pictured, when fully loaded only had 90 
>>> minutes of battery power, and that doesnt include A/C. We tried burying 
>>> batteries in a handhole but they eventually flooded and failed.
>>> 3. They are likely to end up being too small, fiber networks tend to grow.
>>> 4. You may want to buy property nearby to place a hut later, and nobody 
>>> will want to sell
>>> 5. It's a lot of work and overnight splicing to re-reoute a few hundred 
>>> strands of fiber out of a cabinet and into a hut without causing major 
>>> outages.
>>>  
>>> I am only building fiber huts for new sites. More cost but so much easier 
>>> to live with.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 11:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF 
>>> <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for a small outdoor cabinet may 19" rack about 10U.  Would 
>>>> like something that could work as a Handhole/Cabinet where I can store 
>>>> fiber loop under it.  Never had to shop for anything like this.


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>>>> Mark                          mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>> www.Myakka.com

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