The original iteration of GPON would let you feed 32 subs at 12.5 miles.  And 
you still had optical budget, it was a timing limitation.  Not sure what the 
limit is these days.  



From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet

Ken, yes this is a key benefit of PON over Coax/DSL based service. However you 
do use up some of your optical budget with distance, which may impact how many 
subscribers you can serve on that PON. So, you have to decide, is it worth it 
to feed this PON from a hut 20 miles away, if it means I can only fit 8 or 16 
customers per PON? Or should I place an OLT closer and be able to serve 64 per 
PON. PON ports are expensive, take power to operate, needing to place larger 
cable and handholes is expensive, and burning up hundreds of strand-miles 
carrying PONs that can only feed 8 customers is expensive. In our network, we 
plan to serve about 10 mile radius from a cabinet/hut.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 4:02 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

  Can’t you feed a PON over fiber from 10, 20, 30 miles away if you have the 
strands?  I used to assume it was like phone pedestals and crossboxes, cable TV 
nodes, or UVerse cabinets that had to be within a block or two of the customer. 
 But it seems like you could find a location for an active electronics hut 
miles away along your fiber route.



  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
  Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:33 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet



  We have a few cabinet sites like this, using DDB Cabinets. For fiber slack we 
just place a handhole next to them. What works best is buying a pre-loaded 
fiber panel with a few hundred ft pigtail and then splicing to your OSP cable 
in the handhole. 

  Lessons learned after having cabinets in the field for close to 10 years:

  1. They overheat very quickly if the A/C fails. Like 20 minutes. 

  2. Hard to store enough batteries/UPS for reasonable length of backup to roll 
a generator. The cabinet pictured, when fully loaded only had 90 minutes of 
battery power, and that doesnt include A/C. We tried burying batteries in a 
handhole but they eventually flooded and failed. 

  3. They are likely to end up being too small, fiber networks tend to grow. 

  4. You may want to buy property nearby to place a hut later, and nobody will 
want to sell

  5. It's a lot of work and overnight splicing to re-reoute a few hundred 
strands of fiber out of a cabinet and into a hut without causing major outages. 



  I am only building fiber huts for new sites. More cost but so much easier to 
live with. 







  On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 11:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    I'm looking for a small outdoor cabinet may 19" rack about 10U.  Would like 
something that could work as a Handhole/Cabinet where I can store fiber loop 
under it.  Never had to shop for anything like this.


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    Myakka Communications
    www.Myakka.com

    Serving Manatee and Sarasota Counties with High-Speed Internet for over 20 
years


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