Telrad sold us very expensive equipment that didn’t really work. We were an early adopter of the Compact 1000 and we received it with show stopping bugs like base station crashing and requiring a power cycle to recover, and originally the bootup time was 20 minutes so I’ll tell you this sucked bad. Their MO was to deny our problems existed so I had to really hold their feet to the fire to get that one fixed. Over the next few years we saw incremental improvements, but we never got all of our problems addressed. They would tell us it was just us, nobody else has this problem. Then I got talking to other operators and found that EVERYONE has this problem and they’ve all been told they’re the only ones. When they finally released the promised MU-MIMO we never saw more than a few percent difference. My experience with Telrad was the first time I literally felt hatred for a whole company. My blood pressure still goes up if someone mentions them.
Ubiquiti is the king of canceling products. Sometimes they replace it with something incompatible which requires a forklift upgrade (like the first two generations of their cameras), other times it just disappears forever. All of this is fine if it’s an old product and past it’s prime, but they have put things out there for a year or two and then dropped them. Woe be unto you if you bought it. Ever tried “channel optimization” in UniFi? Every time I’ve clicked that button I have a 10 minute outage on all AP’s and then when it’s done it puts every AP on the same channel. Go figure, when you shut down every AP in the building they’re all going to find the same quietest channel so apparently that feature is pointless and stupid. That was one glaring example, but they have other features that are just pointless smoke and mirrors. In general, Ubiquiti has a well polished exterior and they tend to be cheap and easy to use, but the actual products are hit or miss. There are some I’d use without reservation and others I don’t ever want to see again. AirFiber 5XHD is a great value, for example, but the entire UniFi product line can go die in a fire. Smart Bridges was an example someone mentioned earlier. Every single unit eventually leaked. Not a good quality for a product that’s supposed to live outdoors. KP Performance had those 6ft long 900mhz Yagis….I think all or nearly all of ours had an o-ring that would break down and leak. We could probably collectively list a few pages of products that were sold to us for outdoor use but they leaked, rusted, or decayed in UV. I’ve been disappointed by Cambium’s timelines and their handful of failures, but they never sold me a complete piece of shit. I thought for a while that the CAP320 was a piece of shit, but then I saw other people’s Wimax and realized how lucky I really was to have the luxury of the CAP320. -Adam From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 1:02 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo why wouldn't you name names? Reprisals? Nobody here is going to take offense. Or is it a test? Because everyone knows who throws shit against the walls and sees what sticks... On 10/23/24 9:38 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: Cambium has never been first to market with anything, and the rest of what you’re saying is not wrong. What I have always appreciated about them is when the product hits the streets it’s a sensible design in a working and usable state. Generally they also deliver the management features I want, and the product remains supported for a long time. Without naming names (because we all know who they are), I’ve had other wireless companies sell me products with crippling bugs, features that literally don’t work, products that hit the market and then disappear in a year, no documentation, buggy software, and other smoke and mirrors tricks. I think you’re right that Cambium has talked up future products and then not delivered them, but in my opinion I’d rather they do that than sell me a thing that doesn’t work and then take it away next year after I’ve built a business around it. Maybe “selling a product that does what it says on the sticker” is a low bar, but it’s a bar some companies can’t seem to get past. -Adam From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Tyson Burris Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo Folks, I don’t give two shits what anyone says. The FSK and 430 combo was the first promise made and the first to be broken after the Motorola Canopy buyout. 450 wasn’t even in the works. I still have the emails explaining why it had to be abandoned. This company has a HISTORY of making promises that take years to unfold. Sergiu was saying they would have a Tarana killer in a year… two years later nothing. I helped Raymond James pump them to 50+ but then the failures and excuses just lined up. Took 2 million and ran. I said Matt needs to be fired years ago and here we are. Nothings going to change now. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. <x-apple-data-detectors://1/1> Franklin, IN 46131 <x-apple-data-detectors://1/1> 317-738-0320 <tel:317-738-0320> Daytime # 317-412-1540 <tel:317-412-1540> Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net VIA WIRELESS On Oct 22, 2024, at 19:56, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: FSK was working in beta... On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 4:47 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote: In my memory, the FSK was never functional. I may be wrong. Or perhaps you could not talk to FSK and QAM APs mixed. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo I still have APs with the FSK connector. Never opened one up, but someone told me there was electronics behind it, not just an N connector. Great example of a marketing feature that if it's late enough, customers no longer care, don't bother. Plug the hole and move on. ---- Original Message ---- From: "Shayne Lebrun" Sent: 10/22/2024 3:06:26 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Say, remember when we were supposed to get an AP that would talk both FSK and 450? Shayne Lebrun Senior Systems Analyst Support: supp...@lakelandnetworks.com <mailto:supp...@lakelandnetworks.com> 705-640-0556 | TF: 844-444-4249 Direct: sleb...@lakelandnetworks.com <mailto:sleb...@lakelandnetworks.com> 705-646-1846 x583 | <http://www.lakelandnetworks.com/> https://www.lakelandnetworks.com/faqs/ <http://www.lakelandnetworks.com/> Lakeland Networks From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: October 21, 2024 5:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo ' EXTERNAL Email Disclaimer CAUTION: This email originated from outside the organization. Exercise caution when clicking on links or opening attachments even if you recognize the sender. It seems to be promising everything, 3, 5, and 6 GHz. ePMP and PMP SMs can talk to it. Sounds like a great story. Let's see when it's on the shelves. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> _____ <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> From: "Ken Hohhof" <khoh...@kwom.com> To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2024 4:43:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo First I've heard of it. Is this real or just kidding? Does it have an N connector labeled FSK? ---- Original Message ---- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: 10/21/2024 4:20:31 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Evo <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Is this the MM series? <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 5:14?PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/evo/ <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> No one talking about Cambium's new platform that'll talk to both PMP and ePMP? <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> _____ <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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