Every time a party has control of the White House, Senate, and House and then
DOESN'T do all of the things they say are so important to do, that means that
everything they say is just a political football and that no one actually
cares.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 9:07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] intersection of technical and political
This is a huge thing thats always pissed me off. DACA kids (all adults now)
have spent over half their life in limbo for political gain. There have been
multiple opportunities to give them resident/citizen status, none of which were
politically beneficial enough to do so. I cant imagine that life, being nothing
but a political pawn, at least the one side is honest in what they want to do
(kick them out) while the other side pats them on the back for photo ops then
kicks them into the gutter. There are less photos of them now that theyre all
grown adults and the pandering isnt beneficial without a kid in the picture.
personal opinion is just take them all to the swearing in ceremony and be done
with it, those that were gonna do harm already have and are out the rest are
just some people, stuck.
It never changes, one side talks about building walls while not really building
much while the other side talks about tearing down the walls as they continue
to build them. In the mean time, real people are stuck. Theres no reason for it
to take 8-11 years to become a citizen, my grampa came through ellis island,
they changed the spelling of his name to be dicks, and he was a citizen. Nobody
has to jump a fence when theres a door open to the sign up booth.
I come across a lot of "undocumented" in the trades, Most of them have no
interest in citizenship, theyre here to make that coin and take it back where
it has worth.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 8:43 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote:
I once heard a comment from some talking head political muckity muck that the
difference since 2016 is that Donald Trump demonstrated that the extremes are
more motivated to vote, and since then our politicians have been speaking to
those groups. What they're saying may not match what they do because some of
them are simply opportunists rather than true believers. Ted Cruz would be one
example (among many). Look at his positions before the 2016 election, and then
look at things he says now. I don't think he's gotten more extreme, I just
think he's saying things that he thinks a reliable voting block will like.
I've also gotten a bit cynical about the whole thing. Thinking back, I can
remember people talking about zillions of people crossing our southern border
all the way back to my childhood (1980's). It's a great campaign issue that
really motivates some voters, but if they actually did something to address it
they would no longer have that great campaign issue so therefore they never
will. Also, how many of those migrant farm hands take their pay and go back to
Mexico at the end of the season? They can earn some dollars at less than
minimum wage in the USA and then take those back to Mexico where they go
farther due to lower living expenses. I know we've had an influx of refugees
and asylum seekers in recent years, but I also suspect that a lot of the
millions of border crossers every year are the same people over and over again.
If we really had millions of people coming every year since I was a kid then
Mexico would be empty by now.
-Adam
On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 8:55 AM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
I call it the barbell curve. Not much happening in the middle; all the action
at the ends. Inverse of the bell curve.
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On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 8:13 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
In social media, "the algorithm" is tuned to encourage engagement, and nothing
encourages engagement like extreme viewpoints. The middle part of that bell
curve is way too boring, so it doesn't get amplified like the edges.
Mainstream media tends to exploit this as well.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 3:59 PM Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
I like to call it the bell curve problem.. The edges of the bell curve where
the extreme are getting way too much influence in today's world...
On 10/6/24 1:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
<blockquote>
Each side seems to collect a certain number of the "unique" people. The right
seems to collect the conspiracy theory non-critical thinkers. The left seems to
collect the rediculous to the extreme social justice warrior types. And both
sides collect few other groups with extreme viewpoints.
Then, each side claims that the other side solely consists of those extreme
views. Both sides say "ain't no way we want those nut jobs in power". Which is
100% correct... if you include both side's nut jobs into the statement.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 12:16 PM < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
I am happy being a deplorable “junk” person I guess. Not given to conspiracy
theories. So sad to learn that I don’t have critical thinking skills. Who knew?
From: Darin Steffl
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2024 11:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] intersection of technical and political
It makes sense that people who believe lies and conspiracies are more likely to
be scammed than people who have critical thinking skills. Truth Social is
filled with junk posts by junk people so if I were a scammer, I'd focus all my
time there too.
On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 10:00 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
No comment (and that should say it all).
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On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 12:00 PM Ken Hohhof < khoh...@kwom.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
We try to avoid discussing politics here, and yes, no good can come from that.
But it was inevitable that technical and politics would intersect. I didn’t
expect to see it on Gizmodo though.
If you have elderly relatives or friends who hang out on Truth Social, give
them the usual public service announcement to watch out for scams. Apparently
Truth Social is viewed as a target rich environment for scammers.
https://gizmodo.com/truth-social-users-are-losing-ridiculous-sums-of-money-to-scams-2000506604
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