I’m surprised how openly they sell these:
https://vseebox.com/
Plus there are the Android boxes that come with pre-installed
backdoors and malware.
But hey … free TV!
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:17 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP TV
I wonder if the streamers embed a watermark to allow traceability.
*From:*Ken Hohhof
*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2024 9:07 AM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] IP TV
TV (broadcast and streaming) is getting expensive enough that pirate
TV boxes are making a comeback.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2024 9:45 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>;
dmmoff...@gmail.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP TV
I'm not sure of the brand, this was many years ago, and I don't think
I could find a logo I was in a largish hotel that had a STB that had
a single Cat5 running into it. HDMI to the TV, Analog phone port to
the room phone, and WIFI AP. You turned on the TV and it worked.
Maybe The Hospitality arena already has something that you're looking
for that could be adapted to MDU?
On 9/17/2024 8:59 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, the main reason is for MDU’s. If the owners are going to
build a TV service into their leases then their option is either a
deal for both TV and Internet from cable, or to work with two
different companies. They’re probably not going to work with two
companies. Our solution right now is mybundle.tv, which is not
providing anything that the customer couldn’t get on their own,
and there’s not much in it for us.
I really want it to be a turnkey thing because we’ll have less
sunk cost if we want to drop it someday. And I’ll say we have
Realchoice for one building now, and our cost on the TV package is
something like $11/month per unit. Obviously that’s profitable
for us while also being attractive for the landlords.
My ONLY complaint with Realchoice TV is they don’t have a set top
box. There are situations where I think that would be desirable.
For example, one of our customers is a fully furnished student
housing facility where the TV is already there when the kids move
in. If we’re a box on HDMI1 then they could just turn on the TV
and it would work immediately. Otherwise we have to provide
instructions for them to open the app, which a lot of them will
never read, and with new tenants coming in every year I’d rather
it was just **there** when they turn on the TV. The same logic
would apply for hospitality and commercial scenarios. If the
hotel TV required you to turn on a Roku and open an app then I’ll
bet half the guests are going to call the front desk not knowing
what to do because they didn’t read the instructions posted next
to the TV. If the doctor’s office TV requires you to open an app
after turning it on, then I’ll bet we’ll walk in and see the Roku
home screen most of the time because the staff won’t know or won’t
care about doing that every time. Basically, while I love that
they have apps for Roku, Android, iOS, etc, I want a set top box
to be available as an option because I believe a lot of people are
terminally lazy or stupid.
If there’s a way to have an Android set top box that automatically
opens a particular app on bootup then that might solve my one
Realchoice quibble. It would have to be something we could buy
already set up like that.
1. I already know Dish/Direct are going to have a system where I
do all the work and they get all the money. That’s how they
did satellite and I doubt their streaming would have any
different philosophy.
2. I have one opinion that Rodeo wasn’t good. Any concurrence or
disagreement on that?
3. I’ll never get buy in from upper management to invest six
figures in a head-end, and I don’t really want that to be my
problem.
There must be other players for reselling an IP TV option. Do we
know of any?
If Layne is still on this list I do apologize buddy. Your company
has always responded when we needed something and I’d advocate
your product to anyone. In fact, I currently **am** advocating
your product to our upper management. I only have the /one/
issue, and I know I’ll be asked about it, and I want to have an
answer prepared ahead of time when it comes up.
-Adam
*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2024 6:51 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP TV
I have been through this several times. Huge pita, not worth the
effort.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 16, 2024, at 11:28 PM, Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
It's probably best to avoid TV at this point. Very low margin,
lots of issues, increasing wholesale rates, churn, etc.
Lots of companies are dropping TV and pushing people to streaming
instead.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 7:13 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity, why do you want to do TV?
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2024 6:48 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP TV
Good to know
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chris Fabien
<ch...@lakenetmi.com>
*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2024 7:30:35 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP TV
We had an extremely bad experience with Rodeo TV, FYI. We
ended up building a proper cable TV headend. It was definitely
not a turnkey project.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 3:24 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
The last time I dug into doing TV I found anything from
companies that would help you set up a head-end to the
turnkey players like Realchoice. I think I’d rather be on
the turnkey end of it.
The most
I know Realchoice TV is a good product. They’ve always
been responsive whenever I needed anything, and the TV
works fine. What else is out there these days?
1. Realchoice TV
2. Rodeo Networks? Are they still a thing?
3. Direct TV has something you can resell as well, but
frankly I’ve been a retailer for Dish Network and
DirecTV for satellite TV, and both were like having an
abusive spouse.
What else is there?
-Adam
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