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On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 3:43 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
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> Hey Josh,
>
> What cheap Chinese OTDRs are you using?  I'm in the market.
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 2:31 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So far every time we've used the OTDR it's been accurate within 1 foot.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 12:55 PM Trey Scarborough <t...@3dsc.co> wrote:
>>
>>> The only thing you have to worry about with shorter cables is the
>>> reflection. In some instances with dirty connector at just the right
>>> connector you can get reflection back in to the transmitter that can cause
>>> errors, the tx to shut down or premature failure. This is very uncommon
>>> with LR 10G and less optics and can be prevented from making sure you have
>>> clean connectors. Check the RX and TX levels and make sure you don't have
>>> excessive loss. With 100G its a little different story due to the combined
>>> power of multiple channels, but still can be prevented by cleaning
>>> connectors, but in some instances Ive had to use attenuation when mixing
>>> different vendor optics.
>>>
>>> The using no launch on an OTDR most automatically calibrating OTDRs will
>>> work without one. Your results can be off though. Most of the lower cost
>>> ones are also lower powered and have less of an RX sensitivity so they
>>> don't suffer as much from the reflections interfering when testing. I can
>>> test all day long with my little otdrs without one, but my long range 200k+
>>> units I have to have a minimum of a 1k spool on it or you see ghosts. They
>>> will show up as repeating events at even intervals. Not something you will
>>> see on shorter runs either.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/26/24 4:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I should note that apparently I used to do this with direct attach
>>> cables (DAC) but I think that was a pain, one more thing to stock and to
>>> bring with for projects.  Whereas I’d always have boxes full of SFPs and
>>> fiber patch cords.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2024 4:20 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] fiber patch cables
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> People say you need a launch cable but our cheap china OTDRs have no
>>> issues seeing the connector at the end of the patch cable and stuff
>>> beyond.  I bought a big launch cable back in the day and never use it
>>> anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Might be different with AE?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 5:16 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Only minimum length I know of is the OTDR dead zone.  If that is a
>>> problem you purposely lengthen the cable with a launch cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2024 1:59 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] fiber patch cables
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reddit is wrong.  Gasp.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Connectors are loss, there is more loss in either one of the connectors
>>> than there is the single mode glass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Between a switch/router in a rack what I see all the time is long (like
>>> 5/10/15 feet) cables and then put the slack in a loop along the posts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 1:19 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Patchbox makes some great products, their fiber system is pretty slick
>>> but expensive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cable length is irrelevant it's optical budget / Rx signal strength.
>>> Normally on 2-20k LR optics you are ok with any length cable, 40km+ needs a
>>> pad on short spans. (Attenuator)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024, 8:29 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a minimum length for a single mode fiber patch cable?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been using 1 meter cables and they are almost always too long,
>>> I’m talking about going between routers and switches in a rack, stuff like
>>> that.  I see that FS sells 0.5 meter cables, but I saw somewhere like maybe
>>> on Reddit someone claiming there was a minimum length.  Given SM fiber and
>>> LR optics, I don’t see how 0.5 or 1.0 meter would be different they are
>>> both essentially zero length.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably there’s some kind of cable tray or cable management solution I
>>> could be using but I’ve never liked such things.
>>>
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