The board of directors would rather shut us down than spend one more dime

On 9/16/21 10:17, Steve Jones wrote:
I dont know if cgnat will address that or not.

But 50 users, each with 5 devices is 250 devices. That can get you a flag.

If your corporate owns the ASN, they would need to allocate you some more IP space or have their OPs get their ASNs whitelisted with all the usual suspects

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 11:43 AM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:

    all of them, over 50

    On 9/16/21 03:50, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote:

    How many customers do you have behind 1 public IP?

    Jim Bouse
    Owner - Brazos WiFi
    979-985-5912
    http://www.brazoswifi.com <http://www.brazoswifi.com>

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Jan-GAMs
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2021 3:39 AM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] amazon problem

    It does not appear so, the dashboard indicates the router is in
    bridge mode, we are not "natting".

    The problem with Amazon Prime is effecting one customer with
    their "Fire" toys that we know about.  A couple other customers
    with "Roku" devices say they are not having issues with their
    "Prime".  It's really looking like Amazon is being a "Dick" by
    picking on one or some of our customers.  Our corporate office
    has informed me that they have "opened a ticket" with Amazon to
    get this corrected.  We're a small wisp that is owned by a larger
    fiber outfit, we'll soon disappear as the fiber-build gets here. 
    If our dissatisfied customers go to a competitor, then they won't
    automatically get our fiber when available so this arbitrary
    Amazon Dickiness will effect our bottomline.

    On 9/16/21 00:27, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

        One way they detect a proxy is by looking at number of people
        behind one IP.  Are you natting your customers?

        On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 12:39 AM Jan-GAMs
        <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:

            Yes, except we aren't using a VPN or a proxy that I know
            about.

            On 9/15/21 18:22, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
            > Yeah, I have heard about this.  VPNs using what is
            considered regular
            > residential IPs are poisoning the well for everyone. 
            Amazon and other
            > streamers are just using the big hammer rather than
            finesse to shut
            > them down.  Actually they will never be able to totally
            shut them down.
            >
            > -----Original Message----- From: Jan-GAMs
            > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 5:10 PM
            > To: af@af.afmug.com
            > Subject: [AFMUG] amazon problem
            >
            > We're a small wisp and some of our customers just
            started to complain
            > about their Amazon Prime.
            >
            > Anyone having trouble with amazon complaining about
            your ISP? I've got
            > customers telling me they can't connect to their amazon
            prime anymore.
            > This message shows up: "Your device is connected to the
            Internet using a
            > VPN or proxy service.  Please disable it and try
            again.  For more help,
            > go to amazon.com/pv-vpn <http://amazon.com/pv-vpn>." Of
            course that is even more useless.
            >
            >

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