& hopefully not just the DNR gets to watch it!

On 04/06/2021 11:06 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Always nice to have giddy regulatory authorities than pissy ones.
*From:* Aeron Wireless
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 12:00 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers
Update: Just heard from the DNR. An egg-less nest is not protected. However, they encourage you not to remove the nest unless there are no other options. Once the nest is active (with egg or young birds) then there are restrictions on climbing. Restrictions are based on what stage the egg/birds are in. This stage may require permits as well - we didn't get into that. This DNR biologist wants a max disruption of 2 hours during the active nest stage. So she encourages spreading the work out over weeks with short periods on the tower. So I will be climbing ASAP. During my work, I'll install a camera pointing at the nest so we know exactly what stage the nest is in. Plus a camera is a nice gesture to the DNR, one they are giddy about. Once I got a hold of the DNR biologist, they were very helpful and accommodating.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:45 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:

    I was out chatting with the farmer at one of our tower sites on a
    grain leg about a week ago and he told me that he had a pair of
    Ospreys build a nest on the top of the leg last year.  He said he
    called a friend of his at the DNR and talked to him about it.  The
    DNR guy said that if there are no eggs he was fine to tear it down
    but if there are eggs he needed to wait till they hatched and left
    before tearing it down.  He had his nephew climb up and there was an
    egg but the egg had a hole in it so they took pictures and sent to
    the DNR.  The DNR said that the birds often puncture their own eggs
    trying to move them around in the nest but since that was the only
    egg in the nest he was fine to take the whole nest down.  He said he
    threw it all off and put an orange cone up there which has kept them
    off so far.   As mentioned earlier, there are federal and state
    regulations so your mileage may vary depending on how your state (or
    possibly even who you talk to at the state).____

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    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
    *Sent:* Friday, April 2, 2021 10:51 AM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers____

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    I wouldn't want it coming after me even if I were on the ground let
    alone a ladder!  Most birds will defend their nest.  Get an outdoor
    speaker, mount it as close as you can get it to the nest and play a
    looped recording of a yapping chihuahua.  Birds don't stay around
    where they can't listen and talk to each other, even anti-social
    ones like raptors I think wouldn't like it.  These are a world-wide
    species, why is it protected? ____

    On 4/2/21 7:15 AM, Aeron Wireless wrote:____

        I got a call from a local DNR volunteer informing me that
        Ospreys are building a nest on my monopole platform. He's saying
        that because it's a protected bird, I can't climb the tower
        until they leave in the fall. I have an email into the state DNR
        but no response yesterday and today being a gov holiday I don't
        expect a response until next week. Kinda freaking out here. I
        need to mount a few PTP links. I was planning on a climb today,
        but am holding off to hear definitively. This is the main tower
        for my WISP. ____

        ____

        Google kung-fu led me to a NATE presentation that says that
        climbing can be done with precautions. Talked to the tower owner
        (a small private owner, not one of the big three) who suggested
        adding a ring below the platform with the nest for the new PTPs.
        Can this be done with the birds on the tower?____

        ____

        Has anyone dealt with Ospreys before? ____



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