From reading some quick information online, it appears you have a lot more 
options if the nest is inactive, including removing the nest in the state of 
Michigan.   However, if you don’t intend to remove it, and it is inactive, I 
don’t see any regulations prohibiting you from working on the tower, especially 
if you aren’t going to disturb the nest.   But, I would press anyone you 
interact with for the printed/online official regulation.  There is likely lots 
of exaggerated information out there.   Basically the federal law treats them 
as a protected  species, which means you cannot posses the bird, the chicks, or 
the eggs.   Doesn’t really say anything about the nests.  Nebraska is pretty 
clear about the difference between active and inactive nests.   Whatever you 
do, getting your work done before the nest goes active if the nest is currently 
inactive, would be a good plan.

Regards,

David Coudron
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The guy who contacted me was just a volunteer DNR bird watcher. He didn't have 
the rules. I have an email into the state DNR employee who is responsible for 
the volunteer osprey watch program, which according to LinkedIn, she is a state 
biologist. I haven't heard back yet. Bird watcher volunteer guy says they're at 
the "nest building" stage. Doubt there's an egg yet. I very much got the 
feeling that the volunteer guy didn't have the full picture.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:40 AM David Coudron 
<david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
From doing a quick read, the treatment of nests is very different if the nest 
is active, or inactive.  Active is defined as one with eggs or chicks in it.   
I think you will have better options if the next is inactive.   Ospreys are 
managed at both the state and the federal level.   Would be good if you could 
find a way to determine if the nest is active yet.   If not, I would work with 
the state wildlife guy to quickly get your work done without running afoul of 
any state based regulations.  I don’t think federal regulations stop you from 
working on the pole if the nest is inactive.   However, that was a pretty quick 
google search.   However, I would press the state wildlife guy for the printed 
regulations.   His understanding of could be inaccurate or exaggerated.

Regards,

David Coudron

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Aeron Wireless
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:34 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Osprey on towers

Danger? No - they got a penthouse. It's a nice open platform.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:29 AM Adam Moffett 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

We had an Osprey stuck on a pole and sent a climber up to untangle it.  Climber 
put a sack over it, cut the strings it was tangled in and carried it down.  A 
DEC guy came and took the bird away.

So I guess maybe if the bird is in danger you can go rescue it?  Is the bird 
arguably in danger?


On 4/2/2021 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Definitely don't climb now.

Unfortunately, I think you're stuck until fall.

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:17 AM Aeron Wireless 
<b...@aeronwireless.com<mailto:b...@aeronwireless.com>> wrote:
I got a call from a local DNR volunteer informing me that Ospreys are building 
a nest on my monopole platform. He's saying that because it's a protected bird, 
I can't climb the tower until they leave in the fall. I have an email into the 
state DNR but no response yesterday and today being a gov holiday I don't 
expect a response until next week. Kinda freaking out here. I need to mount a 
few PTP links. I was planning on a climb today, but am holding off to hear 
definitively. This is the main tower for my WISP.

Google kung-fu led me to a NATE presentation that says that climbing can be 
done with precautions. Talked to the tower owner (a small private owner, not 
one of the big three) who suggested adding a ring below the platform with the 
nest for the new PTPs. Can this be done with the birds on the tower?

Has anyone dealt with Ospreys before?
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