I'm filing a complaint with the authorities On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 5:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
> That’s right, whadya gonna do aboudit? > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2021 2:56 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political > > everyone is right in the middle of their bias. Also, youre a white > supremamcist and i feel threatened as a puerto rican transleper > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 3:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I think the whole country are on the barbell curve now. Me, I like to >> tell myself I am right in the middle. >> >> *From:* Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2021 2:48 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political >> >> >> In the rural area we live in, which is just far enough away from Silicon >> Valley to think of it as "there" and not "here", but we still have a lot >> (and I mean a lot) of S.V. types up in these here hills. >> >> Several years ago I coined the term "barbell curve". It's a sideswipe to >> the conventional bell curve. With the bell curve, you survey a sample of >> people, and their opinions on an arbitrary topic can be plotted on a graph. >> You get a few people at each extreme of the graph, but the vast majority >> are in the center. When you plot it out, you get the familiar bell-shaped >> curve. >> >> Around here, it seems we have large portions of our population that >> occupy the extremes, and very few in the center. If you survey them on a >> topic, you will get a sort of inverted bell curve, where the ends go up, >> and the middle goes down. Kind of like a barbell. I call it the barbell >> curve. >> >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 2/12/2021 12:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> >> There is a branch of the left that does not trust science. And of course >> alt-right has their alternate science truthiness. >> >> There was a good article about Evergreen College up in Washington. In an >> article in the Olympian the writer said: >> >> Evergreen now seems fully in the control of an anti-science, >> anti-rational, anti-liberty, racist minority embedded in the administration >> and faculty which holds the rest of the staff, faculty, and students >> hostage. If you oppose them, or even don't actively support them, they will >> strip you of your livelihood if you are faculty or staff, or your education >> if you are a student. >> >> >> If the far left and far right merge at the bottom of the circle with anti >> science, thus presumably mushy math practitioners, then at the top of the >> circle where left and right meet must be the haven for math and science. >> That is the spot I consider myself to be. >> >> In my universe it is 2 dimensional. Everyone is on my circle and can be >> described by a vector. Magnitude and Angle. I am hopefully about a .5 @ >> 90 degrees. Perhaps 80 degrees. >> >> But you gotta use a smith chart to find folks like antifa and proud >> boyz. They have reactances... >> >> From: Steve Jones >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 12:11 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political >> >> This is part of the equity vs equality stupidity. >> I always loved math, even the math that exceeded my scope because its the >> only honesty. Math is rigid and doesnt care about you, or your identity. A >> wrong answer in woke equity is right as long as your intentions were good. >> Equity makes things blow up. Math/=Equity >> Ill stick with the old truths of mathematics >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:49 PM Adam Moffett mailto:[email protected] >> wrote: >> >> >> This course seems stupid. The original context is the Oregon DOE >> newsletter provided a link to it. >> >> On the one hand, the DOE is not forcing any teachers to take this >> course. On the other hand I don't understand why they would even suggest >> it. On the other-other hand, I don't think we need to flip about it. This >> is not an actual math curriculum. >> >> >> >> >> On 2/12/2021 1:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> >> Yeah, that is what got me too. We all know there are a bunch of ways to >> arrive at the right answer. But in math, most of the time there is one and >> only one right answer. Or in the cases of roots, you can have two right >> elements of the solution but you need both of them to constitute the one >> right answer. >> >> From: Mathew Howard >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 11:17 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political >> >> I think this quote pretty much tells you all you need to know: "Upholding >> the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate >> objectivity as well as fear of open conflict." >> >> If they were talking about teaching different methods of arriving at the >> correct answer, that's a fair discussion. I think it's probably true that >> there are differences in the way individual's brains work that make some >> methods work better for some people than others (although I seriously doubt >> that has anything to do with race, but it could very well be related to >> cultural and linguistic background), so there's a reasonable argument for >> saying that we should look at different methods of arriving at the correct >> answer, but I'm pretty sure that math is one area where there is in fact >> always a right and wrong answer. >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:54 AM Cameron Crum mailto:[email protected] >> wrote: >> >> Well if that doesn't spell it out for you, I don't know what does. I was >> half kidding in my response earlier, but looks like it was spot on now. We >> are doomed if this crap is allowed to proceed. >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:48 AM Chuck McCown via AF >> mailto:[email protected] wrote: >> >> >> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/oregon-math-course-racism-white-supremacy-teachers >> https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-education-math-white-supremacy >> >> From: Carl Peterson >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:18 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political >> >> Not sure of your source but I think you misunderstand. >> >> >> https://www.mathnasium.com/littleton-news-when-one-correct-math-answer-is-not-enough >> >> "Reframing the above problem to encourage divergent thinking might look >> something like this: >> >> “Find the sum of 32 + 5 and then create more equations that have the same >> sum.” >> >> Theoretically, someone could keep thinking about this problem forever and >> generate infinite correct answers." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF >> mailto:[email protected] wrote: >> >> Just read of a push to teach a “new math” the encourages multiple >> “correct answers” to math problems and eliminates “show your work”. >> Supposedly cleanses math teaching from institutional racism. >> >> OK, irrespective of your genetics, heritage, cultural backgropund and >> gender choices, if I tell an employee to go read the sequentials off of a >> reel of cable and tell me how much is left, they better get one frigging >> answer, the one and only correct answer. >> >> So I am an old fat entitled unwoke white guy. By some accounts >> automatically racist. I don’t feel that way, but again I am unwoke >> (whatever in the hell that means) so I wouldn’t know. >> >> I simply don’t get how getting the one and only right answer in math >> class is institutional racism. 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