I prefer smith and wesson charts

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 2:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is a branch of the left that does not trust science.  And of course
> alt-right has their alternate science truthiness.
>
> There was a good article about Evergreen College up in Washington.  In an
> article in the Olympian the writer said:
>
> Evergreen now seems fully in the control of an anti-science,
> anti-rational, anti-liberty, racist minority embedded in the administration
> and faculty which holds the rest of the staff, faculty, and students
> hostage. If you oppose them, or even don't actively support them, they will
> strip you of your livelihood if you are faculty or staff, or your education
> if you are a student.
>
>
> If the far left and far right merge at the bottom of the circle with anti
> science, thus presumably mushy math practitioners, then at the top of the
> circle where left and right meet must be the haven for math and science.
> That is the spot I consider myself to be.
>
> In my universe it is 2 dimensional.  Everyone is on my circle and can be
> described by a vector.  Magnitude and Angle.  I am hopefully about a .5 @
> 90 degrees.  Perhaps 80 degrees.
>
> But you gotta use a smith chart to find folks like antifa and proud boyz.
> They have reactances...
>
> From: Steve Jones
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 12:11 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political
>
> This is part of the equity vs equality stupidity.
> I always loved math, even the math that exceeded my scope because its the
> only honesty. Math is rigid and doesnt care about you, or your identity. A
> wrong answer in woke equity is right as long as your intentions were good.
> Equity makes things blow up. Math/=Equity
> Ill stick with the old truths of mathematics
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:49 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> This course seems stupid.  The original context is the Oregon DOE
> newsletter provided a link to it.
>
> On the one hand, the DOE is not forcing any teachers to take this course.
> On the other hand I don't understand why they would even suggest it.  On
> the other-other hand, I don't think we need to flip about it.  This is not
> an actual math curriculum.
>
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> On 2/12/2021 1:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
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> Yeah, that is what got me too.  We all know there are a bunch of ways to
> arrive at the right answer.  But in math, most of the time there is one and
> only one right answer.  Or in the cases of roots, you can have two right
> elements of the solution but you need both of them to constitute the one
> right answer.
>
> From: Mathew Howard
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 11:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political
>
> I think this quote pretty much tells you all you need to know: "Upholding
> the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate
> objectivity as well as fear of open conflict."
>
> If they were talking about teaching different methods of arriving at the
> correct answer, that's a fair discussion. I think it's probably true that
> there are differences in the way individual's brains work that make some
> methods work better for some people than others (although I seriously doubt
> that has anything to do with race, but it could very well be related to
> cultural and linguistic background), so there's a reasonable argument for
> saying that we should look at different methods of arriving at the correct
> answer, but I'm pretty sure that math is one area where there is in fact
> always a right and wrong answer.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:54 AM Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Well if that doesn't spell it out for you, I don't know what does. I was
> half kidding in my response earlier, but looks like it was spot on now. We
> are doomed if this crap is allowed to proceed.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:48 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/oregon-math-course-racism-white-supremacy-teachers
> https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-education-math-white-supremacy
>
> From: Carl Peterson
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:18 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political
>
> Not sure of your source but I think you misunderstand.
>
>
> https://www.mathnasium.com/littleton-news-when-one-correct-math-answer-is-not-enough
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> "Reframing the above problem to encourage divergent thinking might look
> something like this:
>
> “Find the sum of 32 + 5 and then create more equations that have the same
> sum.”
>
> Theoretically, someone could keep thinking about this problem forever and
> generate infinite correct answers."
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> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Just read of a push to teach a “new math” the encourages multiple “correct
> answers” to math problems and eliminates “show your work”.  Supposedly
> cleanses math teaching from institutional racism.
>
> OK, irrespective of your genetics, heritage, cultural backgropund and
> gender choices, if I tell an employee to go read the sequentials off of a
> reel of cable and tell me how much is left, they better get one frigging
> answer, the one and only correct answer.
>
> So I am an old fat entitled unwoke white guy.  By some accounts
> automatically racist.  I don’t feel that way, but again I am unwoke
> (whatever in the hell that means)  so I wouldn’t know.
>
> I simply don’t get how getting the one and only right answer in math class
> is institutional racism.  Can you imagine someone that came up through
> schools that allow this trying to get into an engineering program?  Now who
> is suppressing whom...
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