Have to pronounce onion like Justin Wilson, the Cookin’ Cajun.  I gar-on-tee.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] space junk

 

 

Thinking about grillions now. We BBQ's burgers last night, and I sliced some 
onion to char on the side. So is a BBQ-charred onion called a grillion?


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On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-space-junk-cleanup

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] space junk

 

Here are some of the variables that will affect deorbit Altitude, mass, speed 
and surface area. At the lower orbit aka 500km where starlink is there is still 
some atmosphere so they are are getting air resistance and are slowing down. As 
they slow down they get more air resistance until they fully deorbit. If I 
remember right the starlink satellites need boosting nearly  constantly or they 
will deorbit and will deorbit in less than 5 years without the active 
management. It has been also said the satellites have been designed so 
completely break up during the orbit so that nothing reaches the ground. 

 

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 5:41 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com 
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

I think it's about how much delta v required to de-orbit vs. park.   For LEO 
sats the DV is smaller to deorbit vs. park.  For sync sats, it's just about 
getting it above the very valuable sync orbit.  So a small increase in orbit is 
not much fuel.   For lower than sync, it's a lot of unused space and a long way 
down to deorbit so they usually stay where they are.

On 11/3/20 2:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I think the best practice right now is to save enough propellant to boost your 
old satellite into a parking orbit.  The idea is we spent a grillion dollars 
putting it up there, and someday we might harvest old satellites for material 
rather than launching new stuff for a grillion more.  You'd have to burn 
propellant to de-orbit too, so if you're going to keep extra gas on the ship 
then you might as well use it to park instead.

If Elon Musk wants to waste his own grillions by letting them burn up in the 
atmosphere, then he can do that.

On 11/3/2020 4:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

is there any accountability for debris left in space? like littering tickets? 
why hasnt somebody like elon musk made a space roomba that just goes and pings 
each item out of orbit back into the atmosphere since we know where it all is

 

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:04 PM Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com 
<mailto:i...@wirelessmapping.com> > wrote:

When you zoom in on the map the objects move in real time. 

Thank you,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> 


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From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> ] On 
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] space junk

What about the moon Nazis?

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Of fiber...@mail.com <mailto:fiber...@mail.com> 
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I have this vague recollection that we currently can't even track all the
space junk. There was some lower limit, in the order of inches(?), below
which there isn't enough of a radar(?) return.

All I want to know, how long until Kessler syndrome? :)


Jared




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Subject: [AFMUG] space junk

Just because I know a bunch of you guys are interested in space stuff. Check
out this really cool site that shows every object in orbit around our
planet. 

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