I think it's about how much delta v required to de-orbit vs. park.   For LEO sats the DV is smaller to deorbit vs. park.  For sync sats, it's just about getting it above the very valuable sync orbit.  So a small increase in orbit is not much fuel.   For lower than sync, it's a lot of unused space and a long way down to deorbit so they usually stay where they are.

On 11/3/20 2:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I think the best practice right now is to save enough propellant to boost your old satellite into a parking orbit. The idea is we spent a grillion dollars putting it up there, and someday we might harvest old satellites for material rather than launching new stuff for a grillion more.  You'd have to burn propellant to de-orbit too, so if you're going to keep extra gas on the ship then you might as well use it to park instead.

If Elon Musk wants to waste his own grillions by letting them burn up in the atmosphere, then he can do that.

On 11/3/2020 4:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
is there any accountability for debris left in space? like littering tickets? why hasnt somebody like elon musk made a space roomba that just goes and pings each item out of orbit back into the atmosphere since we know where it all is

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:04 PM Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com <mailto:i...@wirelessmapping.com>> wrote:

    When you zoom in on the map the objects move in real time.

    Thank you,
    Brian Webster
    www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>


    -----Original Message-----
    From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
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    What about the moon Nazis?

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    I have this vague recollection that we currently can't even track
    all the
    space junk. There was some lower limit, in the order of
    inches(?), below
    which there isn't enough of a radar(?) return.

    All I want to know, how long until Kessler syndrome? :)


    Jared




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    Just because I know a bunch of you guys are interested in space
    stuff. Check
    out this really cool site that shows every object in orbit around our
    planet.

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