Thinking about grillions now. We BBQ's burgers last night, and I sliced
some onion to char on the side. So is a BBQ-charred onion called a grillion?
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part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}comOn Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-space-junk-cleanup > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:01 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] space junk > > > > Here are some of the variables that will affect deorbit Altitude, mass, > speed and surface area. At the lower orbit aka 500km where starlink is > there is still some atmosphere so they are are getting air resistance and > are slowing down. As they slow down they get more air resistance until they > fully deorbit. If I remember right the starlink satellites need boosting > nearly constantly or they will deorbit and will deorbit in less than 5 > years without the active management. It has been also said the satellites > have been designed so completely break up during the orbit so that nothing > reaches the ground. > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 5:41 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > > I think it's about how much delta v required to de-orbit vs. park. For > LEO sats the DV is smaller to deorbit vs. park. For sync sats, it's just > about getting it above the very valuable sync orbit. So a small increase > in orbit is not much fuel. For lower than sync, it's a lot of unused > space and a long way down to deorbit so they usually stay where they are. > > On 11/3/20 2:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I think the best practice right now is to save enough propellant to boost > your old satellite into a parking orbit. The idea is we spent a grillion > dollars putting it up there, and someday we might harvest old satellites > for material rather than launching new stuff for a grillion more. You'd > have to burn propellant to de-orbit too, so if you're going to keep extra > gas on the ship then you might as well use it to park instead. > > If Elon Musk wants to waste his own grillions by letting them burn up in > the atmosphere, then he can do that. > > On 11/3/2020 4:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > is there any accountability for debris left in space? like littering > tickets? why hasnt somebody like elon musk made a space roomba that just > goes and pings each item out of orbit back into the atmosphere since we > know where it all is > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 3:04 PM Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> > wrote: > > When you zoom in on the map the objects move in real time. > > Thank you, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:47 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] space junk > > What about the moon Nazis? > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 12:21 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] space junk > > I have this vague recollection that we currently can't even track all the > space junk. There was some lower limit, in the order of inches(?), below > which there isn't enough of a radar(?) return. > > All I want to know, how long until Kessler syndrome? :) > > > Jared > > > > > From: "Cameron Crum" <cc...@murcevilo.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] space junk > > Just because I know a bunch of you guys are interested in space stuff. > Check > out this really cool site that shows every object in orbit around our > planet. > > http://stuffin.space-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com[http://af.afmug.com/mai > lman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com] > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com%5Bhttp:/af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com%5D> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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