I'll never understand why so many antenna manufacturers use stainless
hardware... I hate it. Why can't they just use galvanized...

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 9:22 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Stainless has a galling/micro welding problem.  Stainless nut on a
> stainless bolt is likely to never come off.  Hot dip galvanized hardware
> never seems to have any issues.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 4:32 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve never understood the seizing issue.
>
> Do people really remove antennas that often that it’s a problem?
>
> I would rather my antennas lock down and stay.
>
> On Sep 2, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I don’t want to assemble antennas onsite, and if possible I don’t want a
> tower guy doing it because they do everything with channelocks and a pocket
> knife.  So most of the time I end up doing it.  And I just hate assembling
> Commscope dishes.  Haven’t used RFS so maybe they are wonderful.
>
>
>
> A tower site with wind and weather and gravel and dirt is not the place to
> be assembling things.  If you drop a nut or washer, good luck finding it.
> Plus you maybe have a couple ground crew guys standing around while the
> tower guy assembles a dish, meanwhile you’re wasting good climbing weather.
>
>
>
> I wish all the antenna manufacturers would put serrations in their clamps
> to resist rotating under wind load.  I wish Commscope 1 ft dishes would
> clamp onto a 1-5/8 dia pipe, or even the leg of a 25G or 45G tower, you
> shouldn’t need a 2-3/8 dia pipe for such a little dish.  I wish dishes
> smaller than 4 ft would still have an attachment point for a support
> strut.  I wish all dishes had lift hooks.  I wish Commscope wouldn’t use
> stainless hardware that is prone to seizing, they give you a tube of the
> silver grease which will get all over everything if you use it.  Radiowaves
> uses galvanized or stainless+brass or bronze nuts.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:25 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
>
>
>
> Look at RFS.  Over time while I was at SAF they turned into my favorite
> antenna vendor.
>
> When I was at SAF I sometimes worked directly with the antenna vendors as
> many of the ones SAF works with are headquartered in the US.  Commscope,
> RFS, and Radiowaves all had different ideas about costs for shipping vs.
> costs for assembling onsite.  If you save $50 on shipping and can pay a
> tower climber an hour to assemble it... it is worth it potentially in the
> big picture.
>
>
>
> [image: photograph]
>
>
> *Daniel White*Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations
>
> *phone:* +1 (702) 470-2770
> *direct:* +1 (702) 470-2766
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> Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
>
> September 2, 2020 at 16:51
>
> Ok logo looks the same.  Radome assembly is different now though. I
> thought about taking it apart and flipping but the oopsy risk was high.
> Way easier and safer to pull the sticker off and swap the drain plugs.
>
>
>
> We standardized on Radiowaves because they’re already assembled and
> stouter. Also stiff arm options are way more flexible. Costs more but the
> time savings pay off esp when doing the 4ft+ sizes with what we do.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>
> September 2, 2020 at 14:24
>
> Like this one we put up I think 2 years ago?
>
>
> <image003.jpg>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Caleb Knauer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:55 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
>
>
>
> I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker
> logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they
> stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with
> some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t
> on the website either. Fun times.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:47 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Caleb Knauer <cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
>
> September 2, 2020 at 13:55
>
> I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker
> logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they
> stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with
> some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t
> on the website either. Fun times.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>
> September 2, 2020 at 12:46
>
> Now that I think of it, we’ve put up several 2 ft 11 GHz Radiowaves dishes
> this year and I don’t think any of them had logos on the radomes.  Neither
> pre-applied nor in the box.
>
>
>
> We also put up some 1 ft 18 GHz Andrew/Commscope dishes and those also had
> no logo.  No Andrew lightning bolt either.  But those are very small dishes.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:27 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
>
>
>
> Peel off and leave it or put your own on.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>
> September 2, 2020 at 12:26
>
> Peel off and leave it or put your own on.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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>
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