Yeah, but I want them to stay because I put them there, not because
they're stuck there.
With stainless:
Maybe it was installed a little loose and now it's seized up and now you
can't tighten it.
You can set it on one side of the backhaul, install the other side a
week later, go back to fine tune alignment and you can't move it.
If it's a sector antenna it's not crazy to think that I might need to
adjust down-tilt. Don't want it stuck there.
If it's a subscriber antenna it's got a 90% chance of coming off within
5 years. Either for the newer model or for non-pay or moving (In the
city you get a lot of non-pays and moves).
And no matter what the antenna is, it's not going to stay there for a
millennia. Eventually someone is taking it off. Seized bolts are
making more work for someone//at some point.
-Adam
On 9/3/2020 6:31 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I’ve never understood the seizing issue.
Do people really remove antennas that often that it’s a problem?
I would rather my antennas lock down and stay.
On Sep 2, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
I don’t want to assemble antennas onsite, and if possible I don’t
want a tower guy doing it because they do everything with channelocks
and a pocket knife. So most of the time I end up doing it. And I
just hate assembling Commscope dishes. Haven’t used RFS so maybe
they are wonderful.
A tower site with wind and weather and gravel and dirt is not the
place to be assembling things. If you drop a nut or washer, good
luck finding it. Plus you maybe have a couple ground crew guys
standing around while the tower guy assembles a dish, meanwhile
you’re wasting good climbing weather.
I wish all the antenna manufacturers would put serrations in their
clamps to resist rotating under wind load. I wish Commscope 1 ft
dishes would clamp onto a 1-5/8 dia pipe, or even the leg of a 25G or
45G tower, you shouldn’t need a 2-3/8 dia pipe for such a little
dish. I wish dishes smaller than 4 ft would still have an attachment
point for a support strut. I wish all dishes had lift hooks. I wish
Commscope wouldn’t use stainless hardware that is prone to seizing,
they give you a tube of the silver grease which will get all over
everything if you use it. Radiowaves uses galvanized or
stainless+brass or bronze nuts.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:25 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
Look at RFS. Over time while I was at SAF they turned into my
favorite antenna vendor.
When I was at SAF I sometimes worked directly with the antenna
vendors as many of the ones SAF works with are headquartered in the
US. Commscope, RFS, and Radiowaves all had different ideas about
costs for shipping vs. costs for assembling onsite. If you save $50
on shipping and can pay a tower climber an hour to assemble it... it
is worth it potentially in the big picture.
photograph
*Daniel White
*Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations
*phone:* +1 (702) 470-2770
*direct:*+1 (702) 470-2766
Caleb Knauer <mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
September 2, 2020 at 16:51
Ok logo looks the same. Radome assembly is different now though.
I thought about taking it apart and flipping but the oopsy risk
was high. Way easier and safer to pull the sticker off and swap
the drain plugs.
We standardized on Radiowaves because they’re already assembled
and stouter. Also stiff arm options are way more flexible. Costs
more but the time savings pay off esp when doing the 4ft+ sizes
with what we do.
Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
September 2, 2020 at 14:24
Like this one we put up I think 2 years ago?
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Caleb Knauer
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:55 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl
sticker logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about
the same time they stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on.
Now it’s separate box with some spacers etc. First round didn’t
have any instructions and they weren’t on the website either. Fun
times.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:47 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Caleb Knauer <mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
September 2, 2020 at 13:55
I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl
sticker logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about
the same time they stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on.
Now it’s separate box with some spacers etc. First round didn’t
have any instructions and they weren’t on the website either. Fun
times.
Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
September 2, 2020 at 12:46
Now that I think of it, we’ve put up several 2 ft 11 GHz
Radiowaves dishes this year and I don’t think any of them had
logos on the radomes. Neither pre-applied nor in the box.
We also put up some 1 ft 18 GHz Andrew/Commscope dishes and those
also had no logo. No Andrew lightning bolt either. But those
are very small dishes.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:27 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
Peel off and leave it or put your own on.
Sent from my iPhone
Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
September 2, 2020 at 12:26
Peel off and leave it or put your own on.
Sent from my iPhone
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