I don’t think we have had a single licensed backhaul make it the entire 10 year 
FCC license period without having to replace it with higher capacity equipment. 
  I prefer the Andrew/Commscope antennas for their ability to easily and cost 
effectively swap between radio manufacturers without replacing the antenna.   I 
really don’t need seized hardware and rusty adjustment plates that weld 
themselves together.  It makes reusing the antenna very difficult.

Mark

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve never understood the seizing issue. 
> 
> Do people really remove antennas that often that it’s a problem?
> 
> I would rather my antennas lock down and stay. 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 11:48 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t want to assemble antennas onsite, and if possible I don’t want a 
>> tower guy doing it because they do everything with channelocks and a pocket 
>> knife.  So most of the time I end up doing it.  And I just hate assembling 
>> Commscope dishes.  Haven’t used RFS so maybe they are wonderful.
>>  
>> A tower site with wind and weather and gravel and dirt is not the place to 
>> be assembling things.  If you drop a nut or washer, good luck finding it.  
>> Plus you maybe have a couple ground crew guys standing around while the 
>> tower guy assembles a dish, meanwhile you’re wasting good climbing weather.
>>  
>> I wish all the antenna manufacturers would put serrations in their clamps to 
>> resist rotating under wind load.  I wish Commscope 1 ft dishes would clamp 
>> onto a 1-5/8 dia pipe, or even the leg of a 25G or 45G tower, you shouldn’t 
>> need a 2-3/8 dia pipe for such a little dish.  I wish dishes smaller than 4 
>> ft would still have an attachment point for a support strut.  I wish all 
>> dishes had lift hooks.  I wish Commscope wouldn’t use stainless hardware 
>> that is prone to seizing, they give you a tube of the silver grease which 
>> will get all over everything if you use it.  Radiowaves uses galvanized or 
>> stainless+brass or bronze nuts.
>>  
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>> Behalf Of Daniel White
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:25 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
>>  
>> Look at RFS.  Over time while I was at SAF they turned into my favorite 
>> antenna vendor.
>> 
>> When I was at SAF I sometimes worked directly with the antenna vendors as 
>> many of the ones SAF works with are headquartered in the US.  Commscope, 
>> RFS, and Radiowaves all had different ideas about costs for shipping vs. 
>> costs for assembling onsite.  If you save $50 on shipping and can pay a 
>> tower climber an hour to assemble it... it is worth it potentially in the 
>> big picture.
>>  
>> 
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>> Caleb Knauer <mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
>> September 2, 2020 at 16:51
>> Ok logo looks the same.  Radome assembly is different now though. I thought 
>> about taking it apart and flipping but the oopsy risk was high.  Way easier 
>> and safer to pull the sticker off and swap the drain plugs. 
>>  
>> We standardized on Radiowaves because they’re already assembled and stouter. 
>> Also stiff arm options are way more flexible. Costs more but the time 
>> savings pay off esp when doing the 4ft+ sizes with what we do. 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>> September 2, 2020 at 14:24
>> Like this one we put up I think 2 years ago?
>> 
>> 
>> <image003.jpg>
>> 
>>  
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Caleb Knauer
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:55 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
>>  
>> I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker 
>> logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they 
>> stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with 
>> some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t 
>> on the website either. Fun times. 
>>  
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:47 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Caleb Knauer <mailto:cknauer.li...@gmail.com>
>> September 2, 2020 at 13:55
>> I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker 
>> logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they 
>> stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with 
>> some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t 
>> on the website either. Fun times. 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>> September 2, 2020 at 12:46
>> Now that I think of it, we’ve put up several 2 ft 11 GHz Radiowaves dishes 
>> this year and I don’t think any of them had logos on the radomes.  Neither 
>> pre-applied nor in the box.
>>  
>> We also put up some 1 ft 18 GHz Andrew/Commscope dishes and those also had 
>> no logo.  No Andrew lightning bolt either.  But those are very small dishes.
>>  
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:27 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??
>>  
>> Peel off and leave it or put your own on.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> September 2, 2020 at 12:26
>> Peel off and leave it or put your own on.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
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