shoot boat if bomber is inside...

On 8/28/20 2:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
That's just being mean

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 4:14 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:

    I can see shooting someone’s boat and stealing their dog but
    shooting the dog seems over the top.

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof
    *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:48 PM
    *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

    Blah, blah, blah … wait, shooting your dog?  Now that’s serious.

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:08 PM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

    I view regulatory infractions different than laws.  I am not sure
    if someone sneaks in and works if that is actually breaking the
    law or violating a regulation.

    Either way it is not in the same class as robbing a bank or
    importing heroin.

    More like jaywalking in my book.  But others believe it is more
    like stealing your boat or shooting you dog or something.

    *From:*Adam Moffett

    *Sent:*Friday, August 28, 2020 1:56 PM

    *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

    Yeah....there are two separate comments there.

    1) If someone really loses their job to an immigrant, that's their
    own damn fault.
    2) The ones who come illegally do it because there's a market for
    them.

    On 8/28/2020 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        All good points, except if they are migrant laborers on work
        visas, they aren’t illegal immigrants.

        *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam
        Moffett
        *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 2:23 PM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

        My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm.  I
        don't know what "good size" is in other areas, but here it's 6
        figures of head of cattle, and millions of dollars annually.
        Every single worker was brought up from central america on a
        work visa.  The farm gave them a trailer to live in and paid
        them $8-something per hour....which at the time was 50% above
        minimum.  The local Caucasians would generally not show up
        sober for that amount of money.

        Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about
        immigration and specifically "The Wall".

        I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant
        labor.  He shouted at me that we should let the free market
        come up with a solution.  I looked at him quizzically and
        said, "Bro....the free market HAS a solution, and it's the
        illegal immigrants."

        On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            I have been doing this for a long time. Both manufacturing
            and OSP construction.  The entry level and unskilled labor
            candidates are of general lousy quality amongst whites.
            All the drama and drug use is with the whites.  Hispanics
            work hard, quick learners, don’t cause problems and have
            far less drug issues.

            I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that
            we had to take back to the office mid shift), that when
            confronted with chronic absenteeism, not sharing the load
            with coworkers, being confrontational with coworkers etc
            attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t
            have these problems if you guys bought new equipment”....
            !?!  Right before getting fired his supervisor asked:
            “That vacuum excavator sprays water and sucks mud, how
            would it be any better if it was brand new?”.  The guys
            mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy
            equipment.  And that our OT is crimping his freedom.
            Supervisor told him that it was his lucky day.  He was
            about to get a ton of freedom.

            But this is somewhat of a typical thing. Lazy entitled
            white bums.  We have a ton of them around here it seems.

            *From:*Cameron Crum

            *Sent:*Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM

            *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

            I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my
            house one time and he told me he only hires other mexicans
            because they are Mexi-CANs not Mexi-CAN'Ts.

            On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                I swear, if they were available, my company would be
                100% Hispanic. Racist or not, white guys are lousy
                employees when compared to Hispanics.

                *From:*Josh Luthman

                *Sent:*Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM

                *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires

                Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was
                OK, he blocked the call and texted back "boss gave me
                more money".

                Well..why look for the other job?

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
                <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                    So we get this guy to do the pre employment
                    assessments. He passes the first interview. Passes
                    the second interview (had to go to two different
                    places for the interviews). Supposed to start
                    today. No-show. Called him to see if he is OK he
                    hangs up on us.

                    Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100
                    applications, 10 will actually agree to an
                    interview. Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1
                    and he will not show up or last out the week. 
                    Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am
                    paying for it, but wow. Go to all the effort of
                    interviewing, we do a background check now for
                    driving problems, and then a no show.  I don’t
                    understand people.

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