Blah, blah, blah … wait, shooting your dog? Now that’s serious.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:08 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires I view regulatory infractions different than laws. I am not sure if someone sneaks in and works if that is actually breaking the law or violating a regulation. Either way it is not in the same class as robbing a bank or importing heroin. More like jaywalking in my book. But others believe it is more like stealing your boat or shooting you dog or something. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires Yeah....there are two separate comments there. 1) If someone really loses their job to an immigrant, that's their own damn fault. 2) The ones who come illegally do it because there's a market for them. On 8/28/2020 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: All good points, except if they are migrant laborers on work visas, they aren’t illegal immigrants. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:23 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm. I don't know what "good size" is in other areas, but here it's 6 figures of head of cattle, and millions of dollars annually. Every single worker was brought up from central america on a work visa. The farm gave them a trailer to live in and paid them $8-something per hour....which at the time was 50% above minimum. The local Caucasians would generally not show up sober for that amount of money. Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about immigration and specifically "The Wall". I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant labor. He shouted at me that we should let the free market come up with a solution. I looked at him quizzically and said, "Bro....the free market HAS a solution, and it's the illegal immigrants." On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I have been doing this for a long time. Both manufacturing and OSP construction. The entry level and unskilled labor candidates are of general lousy quality amongst whites. All the drama and drug use is with the whites. Hispanics work hard, quick learners, don’t cause problems and have far less drug issues. I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that we had to take back to the office mid shift), that when confronted with chronic absenteeism, not sharing the load with coworkers, being confrontational with coworkers etc attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t have these problems if you guys bought new equipment”.... !?! Right before getting fired his supervisor asked: “That vacuum excavator sprays water and sucks mud, how would it be any better if it was brand new?”. The guys mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy equipment. And that our OT is crimping his freedom. Supervisor told him that it was his lucky day. He was about to get a ton of freedom. But this is somewhat of a typical thing. Lazy entitled white bums. We have a ton of them around here it seems. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my house one time and he told me he only hires other mexicans because they are Mexi-CANs not Mexi-CAN'Ts. On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic. Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires Same here. He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the call and texted back "boss gave me more money". Well..why look for the other job? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments. He passes the first interview. Passes the second interview (had to go to two different places for the interviews). Supposed to start today. No-show. Called him to see if he is OK he hangs up on us. Sad to say, this is the norm. Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually agree to an interview. Maybe 3 will show up. We will hire 1 and he will not show up or last out the week. Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am paying for it, but wow. Go to all the effort of interviewing, we do a background check now for driving problems, and then a no show. 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