I think equipment needing an FCC license invokes federal authority, which 
triggers checking for things like whether the tower needed FAA approval, as 
well as other things like environmental, historical, native Americans, etc.  
The FAA approval should probably have been done all along, and I think it’s 
diligence on the part of the frequency coordinator that finds you needed to 
submit to the FAA.  But part of that process gets an ASR assigned.  I don’t 
know if that happens if you are on a wetland, historical site, Indian burial 
ground, etc.  I was told you can submit for the FCC license once you get the 
FAA determination, you don’t actually need the ASR number.

 

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I only do ASR if I am over 199’

 

From: Mark Radabaugh 

Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:20 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA determination ... finally

 

We have lots of them that do not have ASR’s.   I would guess that only about 
20% of our locations have ASR’s since the majority are grain legs and water 
tanks. 

 

Mark





On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

 

I was always under the impression and I thought I even read in law that if you 
had any licensed transmitter of any sort you had to have an antenna structure 
registration number to make it legal?

 

Basically it was the way that the FCC managed the tower because they didn’t 
really have management power over unlicensed frequencies.





On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Maybe things have changed but an ASR was never required for licensed 
transmitters by the FCC. A lot of coordinators required them because it makes 
their job easier, but they weren't required by the FCC.

 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 9:15 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

How were you able to put up two 18ghz links on that tower before you were able 
to get an ASR number from the FCC?

 

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:18 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Good news, FAA finished their determination on a 45 foot tower that has been 
there for 20 years, and which isn’t higher than the power poles between us and 
the airport.

 

It only took them 4 months.

 

Not sure what I would have done if they had denied it.  We already put up two 
18 GHz links off the tower (replacing 5 GHz).

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