I wonder if there are usage fees.

-----Original Message----- From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:58 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

I wonder if Starlink will accommodate people who need an IPv4 public IP, or a block of IPs, or reverse DNS so they can run a mailserver, or not to have certain ports blocked.

99% of people just want to use streaming video and social media, so the remaining 1% end up looking for solutions that cater to 1% of the market. That invites high prices without high profits for the providers, and everybody's unhappy.


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:43 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

Then it's probably going to have to compete with a starlink solution?

On 07/29/2020 12:19 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Yes, but poor speed and of course lousy latency.
*From:* Brian Webster
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:55 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

Does the ILEC already have a Satellite ground station? Can’t recall
the details but I remember doing GIS work for the first ARRA award
under the Obama stimulus and it was in Alaska. Rivada Networks rings a
bell but I would have to go digging to be sure. There were a bunch of
remote areas in the state and I think Satellite backhaul was the solution of choice.
VSAT terminals I think.

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:18 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

The problem is that they are served by an ILEC.  Considering buying
and upgrading the ILEC...  So starlink does not help with that.

*From:*Bill Prince

*Sent:*Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

That's above the 40th parallel. Just sell them Starlink. It might be
happening sooner.

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 7/29/2020 9:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

    I may just build a large server farm and recreate the internet on
    local servers.

    *From:*Colin Stanners

    *Sent:*Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:53 AM

    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

    "I need to get fiber 400 miles further than absolute nowhere, AK" is
    such a Chuck McCown problem.

    That Unalaska fiber may not be happening yet:

https://www.kucb.org/post/will-fiber-optic-broadband-make-it-aleutians-decision-may-rely-usda-grant
    .

    On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:38 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        I did. None.  The USDA is working to get a fiber out to Unalaska
        but I need to go about 400 miles more.

        *From:*Colin Stanners

        *Sent:*Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:22 AM

        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

        Also, did you check with https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ and
        https://www.infrapedia.com/ (needs login) to make sure that
        there isn't already cable nearby?

        On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:07 AM Colin Stanners
        <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

            There are big companies like Alcatel Submarine networks. For
            a smaller and likely easier-to-speak-with company, you can
            try Crosslake fiber. If you want general information on the
            undersea industry, I can send a number of informative links.

            On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:57 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                Anyone know anyone that is related to placing undersea
                cables?  I need a quote for putting in some cable up in
                Alaska.  No idea where to start.

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