I wonder if Starlink will accommodate people who need an IPv4 public IP, or a 
block of IPs, or reverse DNS so they can run a mailserver, or not to have 
certain ports blocked.

99% of people just want to use streaming video and social media, so the 
remaining 1% end up looking for solutions that cater to 1% of the market.  That 
invites high prices without high profits for the providers, and everybody's 
unhappy.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:43 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable

Then it's probably going to have to compete with a starlink solution?

On 07/29/2020 12:19 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> Yes, but poor speed and of course lousy latency.
> *From:* Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable
> 
> Does the ILEC already have a Satellite ground station? Can’t recall 
> the details but I remember doing GIS work for the first ARRA award 
> under the Obama stimulus and it was in Alaska. Rivada Networks rings a 
> bell but I would have to go digging to be sure. There were a bunch of 
> remote areas in the state and I think Satellite backhaul was the solution of 
> choice.
> VSAT terminals I think.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Brian Webster
> 
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> 
> *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:18 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable
> 
> The problem is that they are served by an ILEC.  Considering buying 
> and upgrading the ILEC...  So starlink does not help with that.
> 
> *From:*Bill Prince
> 
> *Sent:*Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
> 
> *To:*af@af.afmug.com
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable
> 
> That's above the 40th parallel. Just sell them Starlink. It might be 
> happening sooner.
> 
> bp
> 
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>   
> 
> On 7/29/2020 9:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 
>     I may just build a large server farm and recreate the internet on
>     local servers.
> 
>     *From:*Colin Stanners
> 
>     *Sent:*Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:53 AM
> 
>     *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> 
>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable
> 
>     "I need to get fiber 400 miles further than absolute nowhere, AK" is
>     such a Chuck McCown problem.
> 
>     That Unalaska fiber may not be happening yet:
>     
> https://www.kucb.org/post/will-fiber-optic-broadband-make-it-aleutians-decision-may-rely-usda-grant
>     .
> 
>     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:38 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
>         I did. None.  The USDA is working to get a fiber out to Unalaska
>         but I need to go about 400 miles more.
> 
>         *From:*Colin Stanners
> 
>         *Sent:*Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:22 AM
> 
>         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> 
>         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Undersea cable
> 
>         Also, did you check with https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ and
>         https://www.infrapedia.com/ (needs login) to make sure that
>         there isn't already cable nearby?
> 
>         On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:07 AM Colin Stanners
>         <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>             There are big companies like Alcatel Submarine networks. For
>             a smaller and likely easier-to-speak-with company, you can
>             try Crosslake fiber. If you want general information on the
>             undersea industry, I can send a number of informative links.
> 
>             On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:57 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
>                 Anyone know anyone that is related to placing undersea
>                 cables?  I need a quote for putting in some cable up in
>                 Alaska.  No idea where to start.
> 
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