Interesting. And to quote Rob’t Frost “and that has made all the difference” .
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote: > > In Portland part of the protest and occupy movement protesters were trying > to camp out in a FEDERAL PARK downtown. This attempt to occupy federal > property has not happened in other cities that I am aware of and hence the > different agencies involved. That Park director requested more federal law > enforcement help in getting the people off the park grounds and not allow > them to camp there. This was not a case of the black helicopters coming and > federal officers taking over local law enforcement authority from the locals. > If was Federal Law Enforcement protecting federal property. In ALL law > enforcement agencies it is not unusual for plain clothes officers, detectives > etc. to have unmarked vehicles and use them when making arrests. This is > hardly unusual police activity if you look at the whole picture. Local law > enforcement does this type of thing all of the time. If these federal > officers had identified people who committed a crime on federal property and > then fled, they are within their law enforcement powers to directly pursue > and apprehend them even if the apprehension is not on federal property. Local > and state officers have the same powers. It's not typically used but it's not > unheard of for say a police officer to pursue someone who they believe has > committed a felony and cross a state line. That officer is fully empowered to > make that arrest in the other state. It has happened many times and the laws > have been upheld to allow for this. There are also still the power to effect > a citizen's arrest as well. Nobody likes to do it because it gets messy > legally after the fact but that is still allowed in this country. > > Before people get outraged at what the press is telling them is happening, > they should take a step back and gather their own facts and knowledge and not > be so quick to accept some "experts" statements. You all know how bad a > journalist can butcher up a technical article on stuff we do and work with, > what makes us think they are any smarter in the field of law or medicine? > > https://kval.com/news/local/police-remove-occupy-portland-campers-from-park?fbclid=IwAR0dSQqKXj_ikwqmSfvMvvPtOVoFVhGjwrH126Lhiomx3iZXlxTUGtT2S7E > > "This morning, at request and at the lead of the US Federal Protective > Service, the Portland Police helped remove campers at Shrunk Plaza, which is > federal property across the street from Chapman Square," Adams wrote. "The > campers who were arrested - an estimated 8 to 10 people - at Shrunk Plaza > were detained by federal police and cited under US federal law. Initial > reports indicate arrests were completed in a peaceful manner." > > > > Thank you, > Brian Webster > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:41 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > I don't think I'd like it if Obama had dispatched federal troops to > "Republican-led cities" claiming they are stupidly and conservatively run. > > It also doesn't make me comfortable having Ken Cuccinelli driving this. Not > a guy who should have the power to send troops to your city for political > reasons, or any reason. Andy Taylor would make him keep his one bullet in > his shirt pocket. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 10:20 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > The US Border Patrol is a part of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. > > -- > Larry Smith > lesm...@ecsis.net > >> On Mon July 20 2020 10:14, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> I thought I read they admitted to being Customs & Border Patrol, at >> least in Portland. But yes other reports say that a force was >> assembled from various federal agencies so maybe also US Marshals. >> >> >> >> They have been using border patrol in questionable ways for awhile, >> like setting up roadblocks on highways hundreds of miles from any border. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince >> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:56 AM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political >> >> >> >> The National Guard is a state resource. I think he can request it, but >> I'm not sure he can command it. >> >> What I read, they were US Marshals, and other unidentified federal >> resources. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 7/20/2020 7:41 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah, you gotta wonder what their orders were. >> >> Doesn’t a president normally activate the National Guard when extra >> help is needed? >> >> These guys were – what? Homeland Security? ICE? >> >> >> >> From: Jaime Solorza >> >> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM >> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political >> >> >> >> Hitler tactics by Bunker Boy...there , I said it. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 2:49 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > >> wrote: >> >> Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding. >> >> >> >> What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland? >> >> >> >> I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam. >> I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown >> and busting heads of those that did not clear out. Actually one of my >> first telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops. >> >> >> >> Are young white kids just aching for a chance at anarchy? 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