In Portland part of the protest and occupy movement protesters were trying to camp out in a FEDERAL PARK downtown. This attempt to occupy federal property has not happened in other cities that I am aware of and hence the different agencies involved. That Park director requested more federal law enforcement help in getting the people off the park grounds and not allow them to camp there. This was not a case of the black helicopters coming and federal officers taking over local law enforcement authority from the locals. If was Federal Law Enforcement protecting federal property. In ALL law enforcement agencies it is not unusual for plain clothes officers, detectives etc. to have unmarked vehicles and use them when making arrests. This is hardly unusual police activity if you look at the whole picture. Local law enforcement does this type of thing all of the time. If these federal officers had identified people who committed a crime on federal property and then fled, they are within their law enforcement powers to directly pursue and apprehend them even if the apprehension is not on federal property. Local and state officers have the same powers. It's not typically used but it's not unheard of for say a police officer to pursue someone who they believe has committed a felony and cross a state line. That officer is fully empowered to make that arrest in the other state. It has happened many times and the laws have been upheld to allow for this. There are also still the power to effect a citizen's arrest as well. Nobody likes to do it because it gets messy legally after the fact but that is still allowed in this country.
Before people get outraged at what the press is telling them is happening, they should take a step back and gather their own facts and knowledge and not be so quick to accept some "experts" statements. You all know how bad a journalist can butcher up a technical article on stuff we do and work with, what makes us think they are any smarter in the field of law or medicine? https://kval.com/news/local/police-remove-occupy-portland-campers-from-park?fbclid=IwAR0dSQqKXj_ikwqmSfvMvvPtOVoFVhGjwrH126Lhiomx3iZXlxTUGtT2S7E "This morning, at request and at the lead of the US Federal Protective Service, the Portland Police helped remove campers at Shrunk Plaza, which is federal property across the street from Chapman Square," Adams wrote. "The campers who were arrested - an estimated 8 to 10 people - at Shrunk Plaza were detained by federal police and cited under US federal law. Initial reports indicate arrests were completed in a peaceful manner." Thank you, Brian Webster -----Original Message----- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:41 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political I don't think I'd like it if Obama had dispatched federal troops to "Republican-led cities" claiming they are stupidly and conservatively run. It also doesn't make me comfortable having Ken Cuccinelli driving this. Not a guy who should have the power to send troops to your city for political reasons, or any reason. Andy Taylor would make him keep his one bullet in his shirt pocket. -----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 10:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political The US Border Patrol is a part of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon July 20 2020 10:14, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I thought I read they admitted to being Customs & Border Patrol, at > least in Portland. But yes other reports say that a force was > assembled from various federal agencies so maybe also US Marshals. > > > > They have been using border patrol in questionable ways for awhile, > like setting up roadblocks on highways hundreds of miles from any border. > > > > > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:56 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > The National Guard is a state resource. I think he can request it, but > I'm not sure he can command it. > > What I read, they were US Marshals, and other unidentified federal > resources. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 7/20/2020 7:41 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Yeah, you gotta wonder what their orders were. > > Doesn’t a president normally activate the National Guard when extra > help is needed? > > These guys were – what? Homeland Security? ICE? > > > > From: Jaime Solorza > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > Hitler tactics by Bunker Boy...there , I said it. > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 2:49 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > > wrote: > > Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding. > > > > What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland? > > > > I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam. > I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown > and busting heads of those that did not clear out. Actually one of my > first telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops. > > > > Are young white kids just aching for a chance at anarchy? I don’t get it. > > Misbehaving while trying to wrap some kind of noble cause around you > is pretty childish. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > _____ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
