Time to get a new butcher, unless its a one man shop. Our 2 meat shops are
2 weeks out on packages. Like they always have been.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:39 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote:

> Time to get your hunting attire out.
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> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
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> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
> Just saw on FB that the butcher we use is booked up through the rest of
> the year and aren't taking 2021 appointments until June 1st.
>
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:34:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
> I recently bought some halal chicken thighs at the grocery store.  They
> were actually quite good, maybe a little larger than the typical Tyson or
> Perdue ones, but more skillfully trimmed.
>
>
>
> I suppose there’s no such thing as halal pork, though.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:18 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
>
>
> Our farm recently started to put on a more public-facing presence. It was
> slow going at first, but man has it really picked up speed now. If we can
> keep 1/2 of the people coming back in a year, we'll be doing great. People
> are loving the product. Five star Facebook reviews have been coming in.
>
>
>
>
>
> But yeah, the local butchers to turn the animal into meat were already
> backed up.
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> *From: *"David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:09:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
> I think what he is referring to is that there is an over abundance of the
> product available to manufacture/distribute.    I grew up as a farm kid and
> when we were young, every farmer had pigs, beef cattle (we called them
> feeder cattle) and dairy.   Now, it has all moved to highly efficient,
> large operations.   Most farmers can’t make any money as a small dairy or
> hog operation, and it is way too much work for what you can make.  So
> everything consolidated into large, efficient operations.    As many know,
> they have been dumping milk because they have to milk the cows, they cannot
> skip a rotation or the cows get infections (mastitis).   Same with the
> large pig operations.   They have pigs that are mature and have to moved
> out of the feed lots/buildings.   This is due to the cost of continuing to
> feed them, and the need to make room for the smaller ones that are coming
> in regardless.   So next week back where I grew up, they are starting to
> shoot the pigs, and they’ll have to bury them.  So what is going to happen
> is that we will be killing pigs and burying them, but there will be no meat
> on the shelves because of the meat packing plant issue.   I supposed it is
> more accurately called manufacturing rather than distribution, however, I
> might argue feed and water are the raw materials and the growing/finishing
> is the manufacturing, it is the long pole in the tent for timing.   Meat
> packing is a pretty short time period and it is probably manufacturing, but
> only the tail end of it.   It takes 6-9 months to grow a hog to slaughter
> weight, and 3-5 days to get it to your table.
>
>
>
> I am not commenting on whether his comments are right or wrong, but my
> wager is that in two weeks meat will be the next toilet paper if it isn’t
> already.   As you said, I am not sure how well that will work to force them
> to stay open, but things are going to get very nuts of we have 3-4 weeks of
> most meat packing plants being closed.  Of course most of the issue will be
> over-reaction like the toilet paper thing.
>
>
>
> Really sad to see farmers have to destroy finished hogs and stores with no
> meat in them.   But, like the sheetrock shortage 20 years ago, the
> antifreeze shortage 15 years ago, the LCD screen shortage (whenever that
> was ) these highly consolidated, highly efficient, low margin supply
> chains don’t deal with disruption very well.  Not really anyone’s fault,
> but tough to see.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:47 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
>
>
> So I was out all day today actually doing work, and now that I’m home I
> see this:
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-plans-to-order-meat-processing-plants-to-stay-open-during-coronavirus/ar-BB13kBRq
>
>
>
> I have no f’ing idea how that’s gonna play out.
>
>
>
> Also the article quotes him as saying there’s plenty of supply, it’s a
> distribution problem.  I have to suspect the reporting got it wrong and he
> was talking about milk or green beans or potatoes.  Because I would not
> refer to a slaughterhouse as “distribution”.
>
>
>
> On a semi related note, with all the ethanol plants shutting down because
> gas sales are down, why can I still not buy Purell?  We should be swimming
> in ethanol.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:11 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
>
>
> "long pig" is different than ordinary pig...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
> Since when have pigs not been people?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:57 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
>
>
> I’m waiting for someone to start a Soylent Green conspiracy theory about
> why there are thousands of infections at meat packing plants but we don’t
> hear about lots of deaths.
>
>
>
> Chuck is safe, though.  His Vienna Sausages are new old stock.  Made the
> old fashioned way, from snouts and feet and tails and everything but the
> squeal.  But at least they’re not people!
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:08 PM
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>
>
>
> when my dad was in korea during vietnam, he didnt question the source of
> the "beef". but then again, he also drank booze that was made in a pit in
> the ground that you had to strain the squiggly live things out of. So im
> pretty sure a dog or cat with the kimchi wasnt any isue
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:54 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
> wrote:
>
> I've seen some things in China that would scar you for life what they do
> to dogs/cats/animals.  I guess when you are hungry you'll do anything.
> Used to think it was cliche or just a joke about over there.  Its not.
>
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> *From: *"James Howard" <ja...@litewire.net>
> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:07:41 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan
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>
>
> So you’re saying the cat should have been pictured sitting in a lunch box?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:53 AM
> *To:* af <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan
>
>
>
> I don't think they keep cats as pets......
>
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> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:59:59 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan
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>
>
> and Facebook will publish a thousand variations.
>
> bp
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> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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>
>
> On 4/28/2020 7:47 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> google will remove this truth from the internet
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Yes!
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:53 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan
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