In mikrotik defense, they make it really easy to convert ac to DC. Most, if not all are just a psu connected via a connector inside with a variable DC input range
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 12:12 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is the power options for this CCR2004 only AC power? If so that is a going > to be a huge issue for most of the sites I have that are DC powered! I need > routers with 10G SFP+ ports that can be powered from DC/AC > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:24 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> You guys all need to calm the heck down with this talk, you're gonna get >> us all killed. Look at what the lunatics are doing to the 5g operators. >> When they find out afmug is over here operating 25 40 and 100g networks, >> theyll send out armys of Karen's with the short hair to put our heads on >> pikes. We have worked too hard over the years building this industry up for >> us to all be skinned alive when Janet or Kyle find the afmug archive. >> >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:04 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> I agree if it's a transport system or a modern switch. If it's an older >>> switch, 40G is all it's got, no 25G and no 100G. Who buys new switches when >>> a switch is a switch and there's a large supply of older switches? Yes, >>> obviously there's a demand, but it's not going to be most of us in this >>> room. >>> >>> When I have actually gotten quotes for 40G transport, they were more >>> than 4x 10G and about the same as 100G (though I had no 100G equipment). In >>> those scenarios, a 25G wave would actually do great. Well, other than >>> needing new switches which aren't cheap. >>> >>> >>> In one facility in Indy, we offer 1G, 10G, 25G, 40G, and 100G. :-) >>> We're rolling out 40G in another, but the rest will stay 10G for the time >>> being. I suppose we could always put a 25G customer on, just bypassing the >>> switch in that building and going right into the mux to the central switch. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Trey Scarborough" <t...@3dsc.co> >>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 5:34:16 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>> >>> you are only comparing SFP transceiver cost. The reason why it is dead >>> is transport equipment and switch equipment you pretty much are burning a >>> 100G port to do 40g there are some 100G 2x40 transponders out there but >>> they are the same cost as a 200G 2x100G transponder so if you go to order >>> a 40G wave service it will cost you the same as a 100G maybe more if they >>> have to use an OTU4 to 40GLANPHY card. As well most switches being deployed >>> by providers are 100G/25G/10G and don't have 40G ports. so you hae to burn >>> a 100G port to provide 40G therefor the cost is priced accordingly. >>> >>> Is it dead in the data center space for the most part to because the >>> power requirements vs speed is horrible uses almost as much power as a 100G >>> and only get 40% of the bandwidth. The power for a 25G is comparable to >>> 10G. Starting to see 25G IX connection options as well. >>> >>> Don't worry you are going to start seeing a bunch more 25G options >>> coming out because the demand is growing. There are already companies >>> starting to sell 25G channelized DWDM optics. The price at the moment is >>> high because they are new and the demand is low, but will greatly reduce >>> the cost the more that the utilization grows. >>> >>> >>> On 4/24/2020 10:07 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >>> >>> That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years. I'd rather jump to >>> 40 than 25. You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of >>> 40G laying around. Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as >>> expensive either. Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :) >>> >>> 40G transceivers I can get for most models for $55. (short range) Same >>> price for 25G! Why bother with 25? >>> Short range 100G are under $200 each. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steven Kenney >>> Network Operations Manager >>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >>> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 10:03:36 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>> >>> Dennis,how many of these do you have on order? >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>>> 25G will be far more common than 40G. >>>> 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because >>>> I have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's >>>> not going to happen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 8:38:00 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>>> >>>> Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out. 25 is >>>> kinda a black sheep in the industry. Good luck matching equipment with >>>> upstreams. I know they can get the cards but most are moving to 40 or 100. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steven Kenney >>>> Network Operations Manager >>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Cc: *"Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:17:51 PM >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 10x 10 Gigabit SFP+ Interfaces >>>> >>>> 2x 25 Gigabit SFP28 Interfaces >>>> >>>> Quad Core ARM 64 bit CPU >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> List price: $600 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >>>> >>>> >>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, >>>> MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified * >>>> >>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>>> >>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>> >>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>>> >>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Trey Scarborough >>> VP Engineering >>> 3DS Communications LLC >>> p:9729741539 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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