Is the power options for this CCR2004 only AC power? If so that is a going to be a huge issue for most of the sites I have that are DC powered! I need routers with 10G SFP+ ports that can be powered from DC/AC
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:24 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > You guys all need to calm the heck down with this talk, you're gonna get > us all killed. Look at what the lunatics are doing to the 5g operators. > When they find out afmug is over here operating 25 40 and 100g networks, > theyll send out armys of Karen's with the short hair to put our heads on > pikes. We have worked too hard over the years building this industry up for > us to all be skinned alive when Janet or Kyle find the afmug archive. > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:04 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> I agree if it's a transport system or a modern switch. If it's an older >> switch, 40G is all it's got, no 25G and no 100G. Who buys new switches when >> a switch is a switch and there's a large supply of older switches? Yes, >> obviously there's a demand, but it's not going to be most of us in this >> room. >> >> When I have actually gotten quotes for 40G transport, they were more than >> 4x 10G and about the same as 100G (though I had no 100G equipment). In >> those scenarios, a 25G wave would actually do great. Well, other than >> needing new switches which aren't cheap. >> >> >> In one facility in Indy, we offer 1G, 10G, 25G, 40G, and 100G. :-) We're >> rolling out 40G in another, but the rest will stay 10G for the time being. >> I suppose we could always put a 25G customer on, just bypassing the switch >> in that building and going right into the mux to the central switch. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Trey Scarborough" <t...@3dsc.co> >> *To: *af@af.afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 5:34:16 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >> >> you are only comparing SFP transceiver cost. The reason why it is dead is >> transport equipment and switch equipment you pretty much are burning a 100G >> port to do 40g there are some 100G 2x40 transponders out there but they are >> the same cost as a 200G 2x100G transponder so if you go to order a 40G >> wave service it will cost you the same as a 100G maybe more if they have to >> use an OTU4 to 40GLANPHY card. As well most switches being deployed by >> providers are 100G/25G/10G and don't have 40G ports. so you hae to burn a >> 100G port to provide 40G therefor the cost is priced accordingly. >> >> Is it dead in the data center space for the most part to because the >> power requirements vs speed is horrible uses almost as much power as a 100G >> and only get 40% of the bandwidth. The power for a 25G is comparable to >> 10G. Starting to see 25G IX connection options as well. >> >> Don't worry you are going to start seeing a bunch more 25G options coming >> out because the demand is growing. There are already companies starting to >> sell 25G channelized DWDM optics. The price at the moment is high because >> they are new and the demand is low, but will greatly reduce the cost the >> more that the utilization grows. >> >> >> On 4/24/2020 10:07 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >> >> That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years. I'd rather jump to >> 40 than 25. You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of >> 40G laying around. Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as >> expensive either. Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :) >> >> 40G transceivers I can get for most models for $55. (short range) Same >> price for 25G! Why bother with 25? >> Short range 100G are under $200 each. >> >> >> -- >> Steven Kenney >> Network Operations Manager >> WaveDirect Telecommunications >> http://www.wavedirect.net >> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 10:03:36 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >> >> Dennis,how many of these do you have on order? >> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> 25G will be far more common than 40G. >>> 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because I >>> have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's >>> not going to happen. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 8:38:00 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>> >>> Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out. 25 is >>> kinda a black sheep in the industry. Good luck matching equipment with >>> upstreams. I know they can get the cards but most are moving to 40 or 100. >>> >>> -- >>> Steven Kenney >>> Network Operations Manager >>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Cc: *"Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:17:51 PM >>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 10x 10 Gigabit SFP+ Interfaces >>> >>> 2x 25 Gigabit SFP28 Interfaces >>> >>> Quad Core ARM 64 bit CPU >>> >>> >>> >>> List price: $600 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >>> >>> >>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, >>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified * >>> >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>> >>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> >>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> >>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> >> Trey Scarborough >> VP Engineering >> 3DS Communications LLC >> p:9729741539 >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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