i remember when the bundys took over the wildlife refuge. never could
figure out how a couple locals charged with arson correlated to them taking
over the refuge and making improvements to it. finnicum got himself killed,
im pretty sure that was his intent. The fbi was in the wrong, but it was an
understandable consequence. dont rush the trigger happy steroid freaks, im
just saying. i do hope those who lied on reports go to prison for a long
time, but the shooting was just a consequence of stupidity across the
board. i watched the video from the truck. whoever took the shot at the
truck needs a live sentence, after a public caning of everyone in the
truck. the bundys are an odd bunch
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> Lots of people have wrongheaded beliefs. Lots of people are assholes.
> Lots of people have guns. Lots of people make threats. Put them all
> together, though, and you have a problem. I seem to remember that law
> enforcement tried to take the approach that enforcing compliance would do
> more harm than good, but some outside agitators stirred the pot. I don’t
> really follow this case and probably have some of the details wrong, but
> for better or worse that’s my tl;dr recollection.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Cassidy B. Larson
> *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2020 12:28 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
>
>
>
> He’s said before that he’d pay the state for the grazing, just not the
> BLM. So why doesnt the state just accept the check and sign it over to the
> BLM? lol
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The part of Nevada in question has a long running battle between the BLM
> and locals. Locals want to continue to use rs2477 roads, the BLM wants to
> close them. Years ago they called it the sagebrush rebellion. Bundy’s
> claim of prior rights seems a bit sketchy. I am very surprised he did not
> end up in jail.
>
>
>
> Yeah, grazing is cheap. But they are $1M in arrears. Wasn’t until the
> BLM attempted to collect and evict that the prior rights became part of the
> argument we heard in the media.
>
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2020 10:51 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
>
>
>
> The soundbites make it seem like that bunch of cooks has a valid argument.
> Once you dig down into it you find they are a bunch of anarchist that seem
> skilled at swaying the media. As Chuck said, if you are going to use a
> public asset, you have to pay the public (gevernment) for its use. For some
> reason, they think they are exempt and want something for nothing.
>
> The funny thing to me is that typically, grazing rights from the
> government are extremely cheap compared to private land costs. It is $1.35
> per head a month or $16.20 a year. A friend of mine that leases 40,000
> acres on a ranch out here for about 1400 head. He pays about $165k a year
> more than that. He does get all surface rights, which include hunting which
> he resells, but he only does that to defray costs. I am sure he would love
> to forget about the hunting revenue and just pay the $22,680 a year.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:28 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Is that where the Bundies are? I saw something about them wanting to do a
> gathering of people with armed enforcement of the right to assemble or
> something like that.
>
>
>
> While I sympathize somewhat with some of their grazing and water issues in
> Utah and Nevada those guys seem to be itching for a fight. They have the
> religious element in their arguments.
>
>
>
> If you graze on public land, you have to pay your grazing fees. No
> exceptions...
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2020 10:16 AM
>
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
>
>
>
> Interesting that the worst place for COVID-19 cases is Blaine County Idaho
> (> 2,000 cases per 100,000 population), and the Bundies are at it again.
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 4/13/2020 8:33 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> https://covid19.topos.com/
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:21 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I haven't found
> that anywhere yet (not that I've spent a lot of time looking... )
>
>
>
> The problem with this, is that it's pretty much just showing the NYC curve
> at this point (since everything else is buried under those numbers), and
> doesn't really give us a good picture of what's happening in other parts of
> the country. I expect we're going to follow along with Chicago here, which
> looks like it's probably just getting started...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:12 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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