There is an actual mechanism for the FDA to avoid the liability, it's baked into the system now.  It's how the friends got the treatment approved for their daughters.

On 4/11/20 4:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
The FDA cant take the liability of "approving" anything without full trials. I dont blame them.

We let everyone sue everyone, we did it to ourselves.

Same reason Fauci uses code words to say the malaria drug works without saying it works or setting cnn off by agreeing with potus.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 3:27 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

    I can't believe I am still hearing about "trials" on the pre-existing
    ebola treatment.   Doctors are talking about 2/3's of test patients
    recovering after 2-3 days after administration. Seems like that
    would be
    a good enough "trial" to start massively treating patients instead of
    20% survival..   What the heck is the real story?   I know someone
    personally who fought the FDC to get a treatment that extended their
    daughters lives for 5 years and it was a nightmare.   The conspiracy
    part of me wants to scream...

    On 4/11/20 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
    > Yeah, I am starting to get annoyed at the obsession with having
    enough ventilators, describing them as "life saving equipment",
    leaving the impression that most can be saved if you can just put
    them on a ventilator.  Yet stats out of NYC are 80% don't survive
    to come off the ventilator.  And you have to wonder if the 20% who
    do, did the vent actually save them, or they would have survived
    even with less aggressive treatment.
    >
    > The news coverage leaves you thinking most of the ICU patients
    will be saved if there's enough ventilators.  When in reality
    doctors and nurses are risking their own lives to treat ICU wards
    full of intubated, sedated patients most of whom will die because
    they don't have an effective treatment. Not a pretty story,
    probably why nobody wants to talk about it.
    >
    > There are trials of various treatments going on, it would be
    great if some of them turned out to work.  Not necessarily a cure
    or a vaccine, but a therapy so less people die.
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
    > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 1:57 PM
    > To: AFMUG <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    > Subject: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID
    >
    >
    > Saw this in our local paper this morning. It's interesting to me
    because it's bringing to light the fact that COVID-19 is
    apparently not what people are dying from, it's the secondary
    ARDS-like  (Accute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) condition. There
    is also some debate within the medical community whether
    ventilators are helping or hurting. Maybe what they need to do is
    just supply oxygen.
    >
    > If this link doesn't work for you, I can email the article.
    >
    >
    
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/11/when-coronavirus-kills-its-like-death-by-drowning-and-doctors-disagree-on-best-treatment/
    >
    >


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