There is an actual mechanism for the FDA to avoid the liability, it's
baked into the system now. It's how the friends got the treatment
approved for their daughters.
On 4/11/20 4:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
The FDA cant take the liability of "approving" anything without full
trials. I dont blame them.
We let everyone sue everyone, we did it to ourselves.
Same reason Fauci uses code words to say the malaria drug works
without saying it works or setting cnn off by agreeing with potus.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 3:27 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
I can't believe I am still hearing about "trials" on the pre-existing
ebola treatment. Doctors are talking about 2/3's of test patients
recovering after 2-3 days after administration. Seems like that
would be
a good enough "trial" to start massively treating patients instead of
20% survival.. What the heck is the real story? I know someone
personally who fought the FDC to get a treatment that extended their
daughters lives for 5 years and it was a nightmare. The conspiracy
part of me wants to scream...
On 4/11/20 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Yeah, I am starting to get annoyed at the obsession with having
enough ventilators, describing them as "life saving equipment",
leaving the impression that most can be saved if you can just put
them on a ventilator. Yet stats out of NYC are 80% don't survive
to come off the ventilator. And you have to wonder if the 20% who
do, did the vent actually save them, or they would have survived
even with less aggressive treatment.
>
> The news coverage leaves you thinking most of the ICU patients
will be saved if there's enough ventilators. When in reality
doctors and nurses are risking their own lives to treat ICU wards
full of intubated, sedated patients most of whom will die because
they don't have an effective treatment. Not a pretty story,
probably why nobody wants to talk about it.
>
> There are trials of various treatments going on, it would be
great if some of them turned out to work. Not necessarily a cure
or a vaccine, but a therapy so less people die.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 1:57 PM
> To: AFMUG <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID
>
>
> Saw this in our local paper this morning. It's interesting to me
because it's bringing to light the fact that COVID-19 is
apparently not what people are dying from, it's the secondary
ARDS-like (Accute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) condition. There
is also some debate within the medical community whether
ventilators are helping or hurting. Maybe what they need to do is
just supply oxygen.
>
> If this link doesn't work for you, I can email the article.
>
>
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/11/when-coronavirus-kills-its-like-death-by-drowning-and-doctors-disagree-on-best-treatment/
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