You can't tweet it away!!! Just saying On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:18 AM castarritt . <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see a lot of people in other forums that seem to think the virus won't > be as dangerous in the US because 'murica, but looking my average fellow > Americans and our rate of comorbidities, I'm not so sure about that. Also, > this: > > > https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/transporting-an-infected-person-china-italy-usa-comparison-corona-virus.jpg > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:29 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> This is not good news: >> >> >> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 8:56 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> Wow, that is sad. Really brings the whole situation home. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill Prince >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:12 PM >>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> This is one I didn't expect. My nephew's father just came back from a >>> cruise and he's now in a hospital in Sacramento. We've been told he has >>> COVID-19, and he is not expected to survive. He is in his mid 70s. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 3/2/2020 9:56 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: >>> > Everyone wears them in China ( hence the deaths going down ) to >>> prevent >>> > you from touching mouth or nose and goggles for eyes, if in public. If >>> you >>> > want to get the R0 (R naught) below two and get ahead of this you >>> _must_ >>> > stop people from passing. Part of the reason not to touch is also >>> to >>> > keep people from picking it up on surfaces as there is a pretty good >>> body >>> > of evidence that it lasts multiple days on paper and plastic and 1-2 >>> days >>> > on everything else. YES UV helps but this is a much tougher little >>> bugger >>> > than the common flu.. >>> > >>> > On 03/02/2020 09:27 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >> The advice is that masks don't really protect you. OTOH, they say if >>> you >>> >> ARE infected that you should wear a mask. The idea is that masks >>> don't >>> >> really keep the virus out, but they can help in keeping the virus in. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> bp >>> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >> >>> >> On 3/2/2020 9:14 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >>> >>> Surgeon General tells people not to buy masks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Uhh hello? The richest most "ready" country in the world doesn't >>> have a >>> >>> 6 month supply of masks in storage ready for such an event? What >>> the >>> >>> heck? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Steven Kenney >>> >>> Network Operations Manager >>> >>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>> >>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>> >>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 11:00:25 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the first time I heard the >>> term >>> >>> “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds. Person was saying US >>> >>> healthcare industry has made hospitals efficient same way as >>> airlines, >>> >>> aim for zero empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge >>> >>> capacity. Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open up more >>> >>> facilities in areas where outbreaks happen. The Chinese weren’t >>> stupid >>> >>> with their modular approach to quickly creating a field hospital. >>> >>> Reminds me of MASH. Time for a bug out! >>> >>> >>> >>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the >>> first >>> >>> page of results were mostly studies after Katrina. A hurricane is >>> worse >>> >>> because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating >>> capacity. >>> >>> With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is >>> >>> infecting all the hospital staff and first responders so they get >>> >>> quarantined. This appears to be happening with that nursing home in >>> >>> Kirkland, Washington. 25 firefighters are now quarantined as a >>> >>> precaution because they had been to that facility. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM >>> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> >>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have >>> >>> enough patients >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com >>> >>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from >>> >>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette! >>> >>> >>> >>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten >>> >>> the end. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for >>> >>> tonight’s dinner. Because who wants to eat 2 hour old >>> >>> baguettes. Probably the only thing in their pantry is >>> >>> cigarettes and wine. But at least if these are the end >>> times, >>> >>> they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end. Who >>> >>> cares about Spam and Vienna sausages. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> >>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your >>> >>> preparation. Some part of you is rooting for it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just a hypothesis. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the >>> >>> most prepared. most of the die hard preppers are right >>> >>> minded. we tend to be the most capable of utilizing >>> primal >>> >>> tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we have >>> >>> the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i >>> never >>> >>> understood why people on the right get very nervous about >>> >>> these things. a lot like devout christians worying about >>> >>> end times and rapture. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown >>> >>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you >>> >>> guys. He is very alt right too. He might be Alex >>> >>> Jones... I have never seen them both at the same >>> place >>> >>> at the same time. He is certain Kung flu is gonna >>> get >>> >>> us all. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka >>> >>> Technologies <m...@mailmt.com >>> >>> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On a side note. Thanks for letting me rant and >>> >>> rave here. Can't do it at home, wife just rolls >>> >>> eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man. Chuck, I >>> >>> know you are saving me a few $ in therapy. So, >>> >>> Thank You. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >>> >>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from >>> >>> Washington Post after all), but sounds kind of >>> >>> science-y. >>> >>> >>> >>> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading >>> >>> undetected for about six weeks in Washington >>> >>> state, where the first U.S. death was reported >>> >>> this weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that >>> the >>> >>> cases are linked through community transmission >>> >>> and that this has been going on for weeks, with >>> >>> hundreds of infections likely in the state. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of >>> >>> *Ken Hohhof >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM >>> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> >>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> >>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing. I >>> >>> have not seen news reports anything close to “we >>> >>> are all going to die”. >>> >>> >>> >>> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs >>> >>> at all of people buying up all the Lysol and >>> >>> Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of >>> >>> foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was >>> >>> full. News reports have said wash your hands and >>> >>> that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I >>> >>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all >>> >>> crazy there (as usual). Actually I have to admit >>> >>> that I recently discovered the steaks from >>> Walmart >>> >>> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson >>> >>> Fresh Meats. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of >>> >>> *Mark - Myakka Technologies >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM >>> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> >>> There are only a few things we know for sure. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. It is already in the US >>> >>> 2. More people in the US will get it >>> >>> 3. More people in the US will die. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at >>> >>> this point. We don't know anything about this >>> >>> virus. Most everything I hear or read about this >>> >>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE >>> >>> ALL GOING TO DIE". But if you bother to listen or >>> >>> read the article, it always has "may" or "some >>> >>> experts". The current official incubation period >>> >>> is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days >>> and >>> >>> base all our models on this and report it as the >>> >>> most likely scenario. We don't know how long it >>> >>> lives on surfaces. We don't know how it reacts to >>> >>> UV light. We don't know how it will do in >>> >>> warm/humid conditions. >>> >>> >>> >>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's), >>> This >>> >>> virus has been in the states before the first >>> >>> reported case. People have had it and recovered >>> >>> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone >>> exposed >>> >>> is going to get it. Not everyone who gets it is >>> >>> going to need to be hospitalized. Not everyone >>> >>> who gets hospitalized will die. >>> >>> >>> >>> The media once again is doing us a huge >>> >>> dis-service. They are hyping this thing way out >>> >>> of proportion. Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every >>> >>> can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone. >>> >>> Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone. Every bottle of any >>> sized >>> >>> hand sanitizer, gone. Crazy. The closest reported "maybe" case is >>> over >>> >>> 1300 miles away. God forbid we get a reported >>> >>> case in Florida, what will happen then? Going to >>> >>> start burning and looting? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >>> >>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or >>> >>> any podcasts or blogs. I do pay attention to as >>> >>> much scientifically-based information I can find >>> >>> though. >>> >>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current >>> >>> knowledge without any spin: >>> >>> >>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a socialist. >>> >>> Therefore Bernie is a Nazi. So the Internet says. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of >>> >>> *Steve Jones >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM >>> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> <af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT >>> >>> stock) >>> >>> >>> >>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the >>> >>> nazis last time... russia is in asia, so russians >>> >>> are asians. Taking them out of the running >>> too.... >>> >>> Weve said too much >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett >>> >>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is >>> >>> obviously genetically designed to target Asians. >>> >>> The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. >>> >>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi >>> party >>> >>> trying to eliminate a majority of the population >>> >>> so they can initiate another run at global >>> >>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that >>> >>> her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he >>> >>> heard that this is what brexit was all about. >>> >>> Germany and Great Britian are forming an alliance >>> >>> now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow >>> >>> government of guess what... Nazis. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett >>> >>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >>> > I'm waiting for Godwin... >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > bp >>> >>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>> >>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that >>> >>> literally everything is a >>> >>> >> "conspiracy". >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on >>> >>> purpose, and nobody has the >>> >>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time >>> >>> passes. In the interim >>> >>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going >>> >>> around. People latch >>> >>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out >>> to >>> >>> be wrong and they >>> >>> >> won't let go of them. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to >>> >>> distract press from Hong Kong >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat >>> >>> China in a trade war >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to >>> >>> discredit Mexican Lager (I >>> >>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?) >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all >>> >>> stock our survival bunkers. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> China is hiding all the information about >>> >>> Coronavirus. Really? Or >>> >>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time >>> >>> omniscient feed of all >>> >>> >> information so they're reporting what they >>> >>> think is true at the time >>> >>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't >>> >>> all true. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion >>> >>> off topic. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and >>> only >>> >>> about a dozen actual >>> >>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a >>> >>> big deal. Novel >>> >>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious >>> than >>> >>> SARS, but not >>> >>> >>> particularly deadly. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> - Forrest >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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