Sorry to hear that. I saw a news report this morning that seemed to line up
and was afraid it was your relative. Report I think said something about a
cruise to Mexico.
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:26 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
Condolences. Any idea where he got it?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 4:16 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
He died this morning. You will probably see it in the news. He did have what
they called "multiple competing mortalities".
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/3/2020 7:56 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> Wow, that is sad. Really brings the whole situation home.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:12 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>
>
> This is one I didn't expect. My nephew's father just came back from a
> cruise and he's now in a hospital in Sacramento. We've been told he
> has COVID-19, and he is not expected to survive. He is in his mid 70s.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 3/2/2020 9:56 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> Everyone wears them in China ( hence the deaths going down ) to
>> prevent you from touching mouth or nose and goggles for eyes, if in
>> public. If you want to get the R0 (R naught) below two and get ahead of this
>> you
>> _must_ stop people from passing. Part of the reason not to touch is
>> also to keep people from picking it up on surfaces as there is a
>> pretty good body of evidence that it lasts multiple days on paper and
>> plastic and 1-2 days on everything else. YES UV helps but this is a
>> much tougher little bugger than the common flu..
>>
>> On 03/02/2020 09:27 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> The advice is that masks don't really protect you. OTOH, they say if
>>> you ARE infected that you should wear a mask. The idea is that masks
>>> don't really keep the virus out, but they can help in keeping the virus in.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 3/2/2020 9:14 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>>>> Surgeon General tells people not to buy masks.
>>>>
>>>> Uhh hello? The richest most "ready" country in the world doesn't
>>>> have a 6 month supply of masks in storage ready for such an event?
>>>> What the heck?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steven Kenney
>>>> Network Operations Manager
>>>> WaveDirect Telecommunications
>>>> http://www.wavedirect.net
>>>> (519)737-WAVE (9283)
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 11:00:25 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the first time I heard the
>>>> term “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds. Person was saying
>>>> US healthcare industry has made hospitals efficient same way as
>>>> airlines, aim for zero empty beds, with the result that there’s not
>>>> much surge capacity. Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open
>>>> up more facilities in areas where outbreaks happen. The Chinese
>>>> weren’t stupid with their modular approach to quickly creating a field
>>>> hospital.
>>>> Reminds me of MASH. Time for a bug out!
>>>>
>>>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the
>>>> first page of results were mostly studies after Katrina. A
>>>> hurricane is worse because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies,
>>>> eliminating capacity.
>>>> With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is
>>>> infecting all the hospital staff and first responders so they get
>>>> quarantined. This appears to be happening with that nursing home
>>>> in Kirkland, Washington. 25 firefighters are now quarantined as a
>>>> precaution because they had been to that facility.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have
>>>> enough patients
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from
>>>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette!
>>>>
>>>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten
>>>> the end.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for
>>>> tonight’s dinner. Because who wants to eat 2 hour old
>>>> baguettes. Probably the only thing in their pantry is
>>>> cigarettes and wine. But at least if these are the end times,
>>>> they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end. Who
>>>> cares about Spam and Vienna sausages.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your
>>>> preparation. Some part of you is rooting for it.
>>>>
>>>> Just a hypothesis.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the
>>>> most prepared. most of the die hard preppers are right
>>>> minded. we tend to be the most capable of utilizing primal
>>>> tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we have
>>>> the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never
>>>> understood why people on the right get very nervous about
>>>> these things. a lot like devout christians worying about
>>>> end times and rapture.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown
>>>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you
>>>> guys. He is very alt right too. He might be Alex
>>>> Jones... I have never seen them both at the same place
>>>> at the same time. He is certain Kung flu is gonna get
>>>> us all.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka
>>>> Technologies <m...@mailmt.com
>>>> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On a side note. Thanks for letting me rant and
>>>> rave here. Can't do it at home, wife just rolls
>>>> eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man. Chuck, I
>>>> know you are saving me a few $ in therapy. So,
>>>> Thank You.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>
>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com>
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from
>>>> Washington Post after all), but sounds kind of
>>>> science-y.
>>>>
>>>> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading
>>>> undetected for about six weeks in Washington
>>>> state, where the first U.S. death was reported
>>>> this weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the
>>>> cases are linked through community transmission
>>>> and that this has been going on for weeks, with
>>>> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
>>>> *Ken Hohhof
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing. I
>>>> have not seen news reports anything close to “we
>>>> are all going to die”.
>>>>
>>>> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs
>>>> at all of people buying up all the Lysol and
>>>> Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of
>>>> foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was
>>>> full. News reports have said wash your hands and
>>>> that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I
>>>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice.
>>>>
>>>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all
>>>> crazy there (as usual). Actually I have to admit
>>>> that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart
>>>> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson
>>>> Fresh Meats.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
>>>> *Mark - Myakka Technologies
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>>>>
>>>> 1. It is already in the US
>>>> 2. More people in the US will get it
>>>> 3. More people in the US will die.
>>>>
>>>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at
>>>> this point. We don't know anything about this
>>>> virus. Most everything I hear or read about this
>>>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE
>>>> ALL GOING TO DIE". But if you bother to listen or
>>>> read the article, it always has "may" or "some
>>>> experts". The current official incubation period
>>>> is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days and
>>>> base all our models on this and report it as the
>>>> most likely scenario. We don't know how long it
>>>> lives on surfaces. We don't know how it reacts to
>>>> UV light. We don't know how it will do in
>>>> warm/humid conditions.
>>>>
>>>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's), This
>>>> virus has been in the states before the first
>>>> reported case. People have had it and recovered
>>>> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed
>>>> is going to get it. Not everyone who gets it is
>>>> going to need to be hospitalized. Not everyone
>>>> who gets hospitalized will die.
>>>>
>>>> The media once again is doing us a huge
>>>> dis-service. They are hyping this thing way out
>>>> of proportion. Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every
>>>> can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.
>>>> Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone. Every bottle of any
>>>> sized hand sanitizer, gone. Crazy. The closest reported "maybe"
>>>> case is over
>>>> 1300 miles away. God forbid we get a reported
>>>> case in Florida, what will happen then? Going to
>>>> start burning and looting?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>
>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com>
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or
>>>> any podcasts or blogs. I do pay attention to as
>>>> much scientifically-based information I can find
>>>> though.
>>>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current
>>>> knowledge without any spin:
>>>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outb
>>>> reak-united-states-means-you
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a socialist.
>>>> Therefore Bernie is a Nazi. So the Internet says.
>>>>
>>>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
>>>> *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT
>>>> stock)
>>>>
>>>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the
>>>> nazis last time... russia is in asia, so russians
>>>> are asians. Taking them out of the running too....
>>>> Weve said too much
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett
>>>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is
>>>> obviously genetically designed to target Asians.
>>>> The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
>>>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party
>>>> trying to eliminate a majority of the population
>>>> so they can initiate another run at global
>>>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that
>>>> her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he
>>>> heard that this is what brexit was all about.
>>>> Germany and Great Britian are forming an alliance
>>>> now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow
>>>> government of guess what... Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett
>>>> <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>>>
>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > bp
>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that
>>>> literally everything is a
>>>> >> "conspiracy".
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on
>>>> purpose, and nobody has the
>>>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time
>>>> passes. In the interim
>>>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going
>>>> around. People latch
>>>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to
>>>> be wrong and they
>>>> >> won't let go of them.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to
>>>> distract press from Hong Kong
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat
>>>> China in a trade war
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to
>>>> discredit Mexican Lager (I
>>>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all
>>>> stock our survival bunkers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> China is hiding all the information about
>>>> Coronavirus. Really? Or
>>>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time
>>>> omniscient feed of all
>>>> >> information so they're reporting what they
>>>> think is true at the time
>>>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't
>>>> all true.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion
>>>> off topic.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only
>>>> about a dozen actual
>>>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a
>>>> big deal. Novel
>>>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than
>>>> SARS, but not
>>>> >>> particularly deadly.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
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