I just can't imagine getting sucked further into the Calix hole.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:22:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Audience mesh router
Thanks for the post Ken,
We have quite a bit of interest in those. We have been looking at the Calix as
well, but as discussed here earlier, we aren’t quite ready to jump into yet
another piece of management/operations software. Maybe when we are larger as it
seems like the Calix is a good solution, but for now we really like the idea of
the Mikrotik as we have a pretty deep investment in Mikrotik already and can
manage them with existing tools. We’d love to hear your thoughts on:
* Any other software tools needed, or does Winbox and SNMP do the trick for
managing and monitoring
* Does the throughput measure up to others. We have tested Netgear Orbi and
Amplifi. The Amplifi is impressive, but no remote management is a deal breaker
* What happens to throughput if you string three of them together
* Can you (we are assuming you can) extend the network using cabled
backhaul as well as wireless
Regards,
David Coudron
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 7:23 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Audience mesh router
I got 3 of them to play with. So far, so good. I have no complaints about the
aesthetics, it’s a nice looking unit. It would look even nicer if it wasn’t so
expensive. Still need to evaluate WiFi performance in a large house. They made
the mesh backhaul 4x4 MIMO so apparently they want that to be really robust.
There’s a website with photos of the insides:
https://mikrotik-routeros.com/2019/10/mikrotik-audience-review-and-teardown/
I expected it to get hot or for hot air to be coming out of the top, but no
signs of that at all. RB4011 gets quite warm, but it has the CPU clocked much
faster, plus it has all those gigabit ports.
From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com >
Cc: Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Audience mesh router
We have sold quite a few of them and currelty have stock on them. They are a
tri-band radio system, so meshing is fairly easy plus no slowdown on the
repeater nodes. 99% of them work quite well with one, if you need another just
add it and it has an auto connect process as long as you don’t change too much.
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From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 10:01 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < af@af.afmug.com >
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Audience mesh router
I totally missed the existence of this product and apparently the US version is
actually shipping.
Has anyone tried them out? Typical of mesh systems, it doesn’t have a full
complement of Ethernet ports, but 2 is better than 1 like some of the mesh
products out there.
It’s less expensive than a 4011, but it’s pretty and has easy mesh setup. A
4011 is currently my best Mikrotik family choice for whole home WiFi coverage
in large homes, but it’s overkill for most customers, who typically don’t need
anything close to 10 GigE ports, the 4011 also gets pretty hot, and it’s
expensive.
Rarely in customer homes can we run cables to additional routers and use
CAPsMAN, and the Mikrotik powerline networking product has been disappointing.
Am I missing something about the easy mesh setup? Is this something I could do
with hAP ac or 4011 routers if I just learned how? The “Audience” product has
two 5 GHz radios and apparently uses U-NII-1 for clients and the upper bands
for backhaul between mesh units.
I’m hoping since this runs the regular Mikrotik OS that you don’t really have
to use a phone and the Audience app to set it up and can just use Winbox from
an Ethernet port. That’s something I dislike about most customer purchased mesh
systems like Google/Nest or Eero, you need an app on your phone and to set up a
Google or Eero cloud account, so it’s not really something our installers are
going to want to set up for the customer.
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