Where are you getting the 844e for $100? On Sunday, December 15, 2019, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> The audience costs about $160 right now when you get the Calix 844e for > much cheaper than that close to $100. Mesh is even less and it's easy for > the customer to pair. > > Plus it's all managed by you in a single management system. 50 cents per > month per router. All these other systems people are talking about are more > expensive upfront and there's zero management of them that is easy with > support behind it. > > If someone says management is expensive, I say it would take 10 years for > the Mikrotik with zero monthly costs to breakeven. That's $60 divided by > 50 cents = 120 months or 10 years. > > So Calix at $100 upfront and $0.50 monthly is way better value than any > other managed routers. This is carrier grade gear too better than the wifi > on any other managed router, period. 4x4 mu-mimo chipset on 5ghz with great > range and reliability. > > Everything else people are posting cost more with no capability to manage > thousands of devices. You could try your own tr-069 platform but that costs > labor and money as well. Just pay the man (Calix) for software they already > have polished and if you need help, their support is included in what you > pay so they will fix it instead of you. Time is money. If you waste your > own time doing everything for "free or cheap", you're actually costing > yourself lots of money. > > You don't always need to reinvent the wheel. I have the same thoughts on > billing systems when people say sonar, Powercode, Azotel are too expensive. > I say they're worth every penny because instead of sinking money into my > own system and waiting for something polished, I can just pay these guys > for a system that already works and focus on making money by growing. By > trying to do everything yourself, you will absolutely cost the company > money in hopes of trying to save money. This is why we do our best not to > host any servers. Email and file storage is Google, payroll is gusto, > billing is Azotel on their servers, phone system is on a vps at Linode, > quickbooks online. All of this keeps me from trying to be a server > administrator and I can grow our revenue. > > Sorry to rant and go off topic but I think wisp's shouldn't always try to > do what's cheapest or free when many of the paid solutions will help their > business grow. Outsource anything that is not your core business so you can > be laser focused. > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:01 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> I totally missed the existence of this product and apparently the US >> version is actually shipping. >> >> >> >> Has anyone tried them out? Typical of mesh systems, it doesn’t have a >> full complement of Ethernet ports, but 2 is better than 1 like some of the >> mesh products out there. >> >> >> >> It’s less expensive than a 4011, but it’s pretty and has easy mesh >> setup. A 4011 is currently my best Mikrotik family choice for whole home >> WiFi coverage in large homes, but it’s overkill for most customers, who >> typically don’t need anything close to 10 GigE ports, the 4011 also gets >> pretty hot, and it’s expensive. >> >> >> >> Rarely in customer homes can we run cables to additional routers and use >> CAPsMAN, and the Mikrotik powerline networking product has been >> disappointing. Am I missing something about the easy mesh setup? Is this >> something I could do with hAP ac or 4011 routers if I just learned how? >> The “Audience” product has two 5 GHz radios and apparently uses U-NII-1 for >> clients and the upper bands for backhaul between mesh units. >> >> >> >> I’m hoping since this runs the regular Mikrotik OS that you don’t really >> have to use a phone and the Audience app to set it up and can just use >> Winbox from an Ethernet port. That’s something I dislike about most >> customer purchased mesh systems like Google/Nest or Eero, you need an app >> on your phone and to set up a Google or Eero cloud account, so it’s not >> really something our installers are going to want to set up for the >> customer. >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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