Ugh, well, I wish Aviat would let me create an account without "Someone Getting Back to me"...   Score one for Siklu..

On 11/19/19 8:51 PM, Daniel White wrote:
I love SAF and probably always will.  Lots of great memories working there. Steve I think I was even part of helping convince you on that first SAF link ;-)

With that said, Ken is the real deal and Aviat has really come out swinging.  This is the old Harris-Stratex for those that deployed that gear - very solid equipment just never interested in the WISP market until recently.  The radios are very, very sexy... and with the people that have gone to work for them over the last 24 months plus the legacy of the brand... I wouldn't have qualms about choosing Aviat.

My only knock against them is selling direct vs. channel... I believe in the value of a great channel but it looks like Aviat is making the right moves where the direct model usually falls apart.

On the trial license... I'd forget about it.  Won't be any cheaper (a trial license that is)... and I doubt your going to get any manufacturers to play ball on a bakeoff type thing anyways where you could return the gear and keep your favorite.

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Steve Jones wrote on 11/19/19 21:19:
Thats the motherfucker, kens his name. Its funny you guys mention the GUI, thats about the only thing Im questioning on the gear right now. usually my sales communications is a whole bunch of back and forth digging into what the gear actually does, a couple emails in and im basically asking him, "whats the GUI look like" and "why am I not hanging this shit in the air today?" I really like this guys no nonsense sales approach, he touched me off a facebook post, so immediately I was like "This guy" and now hes like the boss skag dealer with the 99% pure telling me "buy it or dont, I got the good shit" Its 2/3 the price of SAF, some serious mbps more in bits/hz. we already went the regrettable route of Mimosa and came crawling back to SAF, as if we hadnt learned we put our ring in the dresser and went out to meet Cambium at the bar, but there was Aviat, at the hot dog cart, hair flowing in the breeze, with their doe eyes... tsk tsk

Adair, how do their rf profiles compare to their real world performance?. Ive always appreciated SAF, They way understate their numbers and the radios way overperform my expectations.

My only real complain with the SAF Integra we run is the need for external LAG since its 2+0, but the new Integra -X is XPIC  with layer 1 aggregation

Our Lumina Links have some ethernet issues, but we got the fiber kits if we ever turn it up.

Outstanding on the Aviat quote is the fiber, nobody puts that on the quote default

anybody know if commsearch can get you a cheap 11ghz trial license to compare a couple vendors gear?

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:53 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

    I just did a demo today with Ken of their radio GUI, link design
    tool, and pricing on their site.

    The wtm4000 series looks pretty slick and pricing is affordable
    for carrier grade stuff. He said they're all made in America and
    tech support is here too. They're the #1 in volume of coordinated
    links in the US over the last few years also, just beating Nokia.

    I know a few wisp's who have deployed and really like the gear. I
    think we'll be doing 3 links this spring to upgrade our AF11FX
    links that are just starting to fill up.

    On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 9:48 PM Steve Jones
    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        What do you old hippie degenerates know about these folks? I
        did a dot I cross T on SAF vs Cambium gear post so I could
        keep getting my SAF gear and this Aviat fella pissed on my
        parade. This is an old reliable company, normally outside
        WISPs grasps offering some hella competitive pricing. I dont
        consider UBNT or Mimosa worth looking at anymore, mainly
        because theyre garbage. SAF has tickled my fancy and the boss
        keeps dropping coin at them. this sales prick however is
        really scratching my itch (and Ive been around the block).

        I really cant find a reason at this point to not buy a link
        and see how it does. we arent talking nickels here, the price
        he offered I feel like a dirty grampa asking for the few
        percent off I always ask.

        Somebody here has to have had a bad date with these guys
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