Here’s that barn from Google Earth.

 

But the point is they wanted a higher speed plan than we can offer from that 
particular tower, which is an old legacy micropop and not fed with licensed 
backhaul, the reason being they want to stream tons of video because that’s 
what they are used to on fiber at their old house.

 

The other 2 towers which are major towers in our network with licensed backhaul 
and lots of APs including 450m and both 5 and 3.65 GHz at one of them, cannot 
even see their barn.  They are close enough, but their ground elevation is 100 
ft lower than surrounding terrain and there are lots of trees both on their 
property and on higher ground in between.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

 

Ummm, a roof that is partially falling down, yeah, maybe a brace for a tower 
but not something I would hang gear on and worry about how to get power to...  
was there an "LOL" missing?

On 11/17/19 7:49 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

How is that totally blocked?  I can see the roof and a food portion of it?


On Nov 17, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Actually it’s more the people on low ground with big trees 360 degrees that 
don’t have LOS to anything.  If they want to build a 100 ft tower, we can get 
them service.  So you could call it a last mile problem, but not in the sense 
you probably mean it.  More of a chainsaw problem.

 

They just took for granted that Metronet was nice enough to run fiber down the 
street where they used to live, but I’ll bet there were more than 2 houses per 
mile there.  At their new house they have well and septic and a propane tank, 
maybe they also need to pay for satellite TV and learn to program the DVR.  The 
elderly couple they bought the house from probably didn’t need superfast 
Internet.

 

Example, the photo I’m attaching.  Of the telephoto photos from all 3 of our 
nearby towers, this is the only thing we could see.  Their house is totally 
blocked, because they are on low ground surrounded by trees.  This is the peak 
of an old 40 ft barn with a steep roof that has huge holes that have fallen in 
only the top of the barn roof is visible in the photo).

 

They can see the southern sky and could get Hughesnet.  Or wait for LEO 
service.  Or for the government to pay for fiber.

 

 

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Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

 

Where is your pain point? Last mile, middle mile, something else?



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 11:31:12 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

Anybody else losing their patience with streamers?

 

The people who just moved from somewhere they had gigabit fiber to the middle 
of nowhere in a low spot surrounded by tons of trees, and say they stream all 
their TV on 3-4 screens at the same time.

 

I want to yell at them, if you had affordable blazing fast Internet, and it’s 
that important to you, why did you move?  And if you had to move, why didn’t 
you move to a nice suburb with fiber or at least cable?  And why do you have to 
stream everything?  You could get satellite TV.  Yes, it’s expensive, get over 
it.  You could put up a TV antenna.  You could get DVDs by mail.  Or if moving 
to the country was so important, you could go out on the ATV or horse or 
snowmobile, or go hunting, or feed the chickens and mini goats.  If they’re 
streaming all the time, I have to suspect the reason for moving to Green Acres 
was to save on property taxes, and the reason for streaming is to avoid paying 
$200/month to DirecTV or DISH.

 

It’s gotten so  bad, a significant number of prospective customers say they 
only want Internet to stream, anything else they can do on their phone.  And 
when a streaming subscription is sub $10 (or free with Amazon Prime), they’re 
thinking Internet is like shipping, it shouldn’t cost more than the item being 
delivered.

 

I know, “OK boomer”.


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