Why do you need the 8 port injector module separately from just a couple
more PIPS?  Cost?  The PIPS will do everything that the 8 port injector
card will do, and does most of the fusing for you (just give it a 10A fuse,
it will be fine).

One of the products I mentioned that might come out shortly is a 6 port
non-sync version of the powerinjector.   So for non-sync radios you will
have a bit more density.   It basically removes the two syncpipe ports and
uses that space for PoE ports.

The 12 port unit isn't dead per-se, just hasn't materialized for various
reasons.   Part of the challenge with the 12 port unit is getting enough
power into that 12 port unit anymore.   12 ports needs almost 20A when
you're talking about medusas.   The growth of power hungry radios is an
ongoing challenge.  The cambium sync power injector+sync product actually
has a 6 layer circuit board with 2 layers just dedicated to moving bulk
power around because of the increased power draw of the radios.   With the
12 port injector we'd also be moving the power between boards
internally...  I guess at 2A per port we're pretty much maxed out for
gigabit injection so if I solve this I don't have to bump up the power
again next year.     Another challenge is the assembly complexity, of
getting two boards in an enclosure in a way which can be assembled.   Plus,
my enclosure manufacturer is telling me that with that large of enclosure,
I'll probably have to glue the case shut to achieve mechanical stability,
especially with hanging it off a din rail.  This wouldn't be a problem
except now I have to solve the how to provide jumper accessibility.   And,
then there's the space issue, in that I barely fit 4 onto a single circuit
board with the cambium sync circuitry, trying to get 12 on 2 boards is
going to be even more difficult.   So, there's lots of work to do, and
there's been a lot of other products which keep ending up being higher
priority such as the support for cambium sync.   Once the dust settles on
the current batch, I'll be figuring out what is next, and the 12 port
injector is still in the 'should do sometime soon pile' - I'll probably end
up taking at least another good look at it in the next few months.



On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:47 AM George Skorup <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Was the 12-port DIN PIPS scrapped? I would still really like to see that
> for existing smaller cabinets.
> An 8-port injector module + 4-port DIN PIPS + fuse blocks is a lot of
> wiring and takes up quite a bit of space. And then I've got only 4 ports
> of Canopy Sync. So a 12-port PIPS would be great.
>
> On 10/3/2018 8:40 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> > I'm a bit confused....
> >
> > We've been shipping web-enabled cambium-compatible sync products in
> > the DIN rail form factor for years.   It's called a SiteMonitor base
> > unit  in combination with one or more powerinjector+sync products (and
> > the SyncInjectors before them).  All a RackInjector is is the
> > powerinjector+sync product in combination with what will become the
> > Sitemonitor Base Unit III hardware.  But you don't get any real
> > meaningful functionality difference between the
> > been-shipping-for-years din mount product and a RackInjector other
> > than the prettier web interface and a different form factor.  Heck,
> > until just recently the RackInjector didn't have SNMP and the older
> > hardware did.
> >
> > The reason why I asked what product you were referring to is the only
> > shortcoming of the din rail form factor has been the lack of
> > cambium-style sync such as is used by the 450i/450m.  We launched that
> > hardware in the RackInjector form factor because we knew we would
> > need some more engineering work to be done to be able to fit it back
> > in the power injector case.   We also wanted to make sure it could
> > work standalone (without a base unit) and run off of either + or -
> > supplies.   If you sniff around on the PacketFlux website over the
> > next few days I have a feeling you'll find a cambium sync version of
> > the PowerInjector which appears sometime shortly before WISPAPALOOZA,
> > with shipments starting 30-45 days after.
> >
> > The SiteMonitor III is going to be a while later.   We have 2
> > additional updated products launching at WISPAPALOOZA, all of which
> > are a result of the engineering which was done for the above product.
> >   Specifically the SiteMontior single port din rail mount injector and
> > the 5 channel PDU are both now polarity agnostic.   There might be
> > another couple of products which come out in short succession
> > afterwards, depending on how testing on prototype boards goes.     But
> > this has all taken time away from the Base III, which sort of has been
> > put on the back burner until we can clear these other products out.
>
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